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  • 20
    Feb
    2013
    5:36am, EST

    Study: Chinese parents bigger fibbers than American ones

    Alexander F. Yuan / AP, file

    A parent takes photos of her daughter playing the drums at a children's play area in a shopping mall in Beijing on Jan. 10.

    By Ed Flanagan, Producer, NBC News

    BEIJING -- Parents throughout the world have been known to tell a white lie to cajole dinner into a fussy child or explain the pile of gifts that appears under the Christmas tree as if by magic. 

    According to a new study, Chinese parents rank among the biggest fibbers. 

    The study in the International Journal of Psychology titled “Instrumental lying by parents in the US and China” found that most respondents -- 84 percent of Americans and 98 percent of Chinese -- admitted that they lied to their children. Chinese parents, however, were far more likely to lie to force changes in behavior, it found.

    “A larger proportion of the parents in China reported that they employed instrumental lietelling [sic] to promote behavioral compliance, and a larger proportion approved of this practice, as compared to the parents in the U.S.,” the authors said in the report.

    The researchers from the University of San Diego, the University of Toronto and Zhejiang Normal University interviewed 114 American and 85 Chinese parents who had at least one child aged 3 years or older.

    The participants were given a list of fibs and asked to report which ones they had told their children.

    For example, 68 percent of Chinese respondents reported telling their children, “If you don’t follow me, a kidnapper will come to kidnap you while I’m gone.” Only 18 percent of American respondents made similar claims.

    Sixty-one percent of the Chinese parents said they would tell their children, “Finish all your food or you’ll grow up to be short.” Just 10 percent of American parents utilized that particular little white lie.

    According to the study, Chinese parents surveyed told 15 out of the 16 “specific instrumental lies” at higher rates than American parents.

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    The only exception was a false claim that there is no more candy in the house, which was reported by 57.5 percent of parents in the United States as compared with 42.9 percent of Chinese parents.

    American parents reported using more of what the study calls comparison lies -- untrue statements intended to generate positive feeling or to promote fantasy characters.

    Sixty percent of Americans said they would use the line, “That was beautiful piano playing,” even if they thought it sounded terrible. In contrast, 44 percent of Chinese declared they would lie in those circumstances.

    The results could be interpreted to mean that Chinese parents are more comfortable lying in general, but the study’s authors said that Chinese parents “made more negative evaluations of children’s lies,” and expressed more negative views than their American counterparts on fibs about fantasy characters like Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. Indeed, 88 percent of American respondents said they had used the lie, “Santa Claus will come to deliver your present on Christmas Eve.”

    The study suggested that the wide acceptance of parental lying among Chinese adults could be driven by a strong desire for social cohesiveness and an emphasis on respect and obedience, according to the authors.

    In other words, lying can be an effective tool in socializing children.

    Or as one Chinese parent put it, “When teaching children, it is okay to use well-intentioned lies. It can promote positive development and prevent your child from going astray.”

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    I for one can vouch that the Chinese are great liars. As an EBAY buyer I see all the sellers from China selling brand new reproductions as "antique". In fact if you look you will see perhaps that 99.9% of the sellers on Ebay from China are in fact liars. While they may consider it OK to tell a lie a …

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  • 31
    Oct
    2012
    11:27am, EDT

    Chinese government think tank urges end to unpopular one-child policy

    Andy Wong / AP

    Chinese families bring their babies to the Ritan Park in Beijing Wednesday, Oct. 31, 2012. A government think tank says China should start phasing out its one-child policy immediately and allow two children for every family by 2015. It remains unclear whether Chinese leaders are ready to take that step.

    By NBC News staff and wire reports

    BEIJING -- A Chinese government think tank is urging the country's leaders to start phasing out its unpopular one-child policy immediately and allow two children for every family in the country by 2015.

    Some demographers saw the timeline put forward by the China Development Research Foundation, which is close to the central leadership, as a bold move. Others warned that the gradual approach, if implemented, would be insufficient to help correct the problems that China's strict birth limits have created.

    Xie Meng, a press officer with the foundation, said the final version of its report would be released "in a week or two," but Chinese state media were given advance copies.

    The official Xinhua News Agency said the foundation was recommending a two-child policy in some provinces from this year and a nationwide two-child policy by 2015. It also proposed all birth limits be dropped by 2020.

    "China has paid a huge political and social cost for the policy, as it has resulted in social conflict, high administrative costs and led indirectly to a long-term gender imbalance at birth," Xinhua said, citing the report.

    The foundation's press officer told NBC News that the report was "the result of two years of effort." 

    "China's demographic changes were analyzed in connection with seven areas," she said, citing the challenges of aging, unemployment, child and women's welfare, urbanization, education, health and family planning.

    But it remains unclear whether Chinese leaders are ready to take up the recommendations. China's National Population and Family Planning Commission had no immediate comment on the report Wednesday.

    'Change is inevitable'
    While they are known to many as the one-child policy, the actual rules are more complicated. The government limits most urban couples to one child, and allows two children for rural families if their first-born is a girl. There are numerous other exceptions as well, including looser rules for minority families and a two-child limit for parents who are themselves both singletons.

    Cai Yong, an assistant professor of sociology at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, said the report carries extra weight because the think tank is under the State Council, China's Cabinet. He said he found it remarkable that state-backed demographers were willing to publicly propose such a detailed schedule and plan on how to get rid of China's birth limits.

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    "That tells us at least that policy change is inevitable, it's coming," said Cai, who was not involved in the drafting of the report, but knows many of the experts who were. Cai is currently a visiting scholar at Fudan University in Shanghai. "It's coming, but we cannot predict when exactly it will come."


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    Adding to the uncertainty is a once-in-a-decade leadership transition that kicks off Nov. 8 that will see a new slate of top leaders installed by next spring.

    Cai said the transition could keep population reform on the back burner or changes might be rushed through to help burnish the reputations of President Hu Jintao and Premier Wen Jiabao on their way out.

    There has been growing speculation among Chinese media, experts and ordinary people about whether the government will relax the one-child policy — introduced in 1980 as a temporary measure to curb surging population growth — and allow more people to have two children.

    Though the government credits the policy with preventing hundreds of millions of births and helping lift countless families out of poverty, it is reviled by many ordinary people. The strict limits have led to forced abortions and sterilizations, even though such measures are illegal. Couples who flout the rules face hefty fines, seizure of their property and loss of their jobs.

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    Many demographers argue that the policy has worsened the country's aging crisis by limiting the size of the young labor pool that must support the large baby boom generation as it retires. They also say it has contributed to the imbalanced sex ratio as some families abort baby girls, preferring to try for a male heir.

    The government has recognized those problems and has tried to address them by boosting social services for the elderly. It has also banned sex-selective abortion and rewarded rural families whose only child is a girl.

    Outdated or engine of growth?
    Many today also see the birth limits as outdated, a relic of the era when housing, jobs and food were provided by the state.

    "It has been 30 years since our planned economy was liberalized," commented Wang Yi, the owner of a shop that sells textiles online, under a news report about the foundation's proposal. "So why do we still have to plan our population?"

    Ren Hao, a Chinese journalist who recently married, told NBC that he welcomed the proposed policy change but suggested that it be accompanied by new measures in education, health care and economy in order to succeed.

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    "Raising a child is quite a burden nowadays so, in the end, it's up to the couples to decide whether they want to have one child or more based on their conditions," he said.

    Ji Jianming, a Beijing construction project manager, argued in favor of the policy. "The one-child policy was good," he said. "It allowed China to develop rapidly and improve people's lives faster."

    Though open debate about the policy has flourished in state media and on the Internet, leaders have so far expressed a desire to maintain the status quo.

    President Hu said last year that China would keep its strict family planning policy to keep the birth rate low and other officials have said that no changes are expected until at least 2015.

    Wang Feng, director of the Brookings-Tsinghua Center for Public Policy and an expert on China's demographics, contributed research material to the foundation's report, but has yet to see the full text. He said he welcomed the gist of the document that he's seen in state media.

    It says the government "should return the rights of reproduction to the people," he said. "That's very bold."

    But Gu Baochang, a professor of demography at Beijing's Renmin University and a vocal advocate of reform, said the proposed timeline wasn't aggressive enough.

    "They should have reformed this policy ages ago," he said. "It just keeps getting held up, delayed."

    NBC News' Eric Baculinao and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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    113 comments

    Well, they will need more workers in the future, esp. if Romney is elected and he and his billionaire "job creator" friends start sending all of the USA work over to China!! So screw China - do not vote for Romney!!

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  • 21
    Sep
    2012
    1:58pm, EDT

    Ax-wielding man kills 3 kids, wounds 13 in China

     

    By Ed Flanagan, NBC News Beijing

    An ax-wielding man burst into a day care center in China and attacked the children inside, killing three and wounding another 13 before police subdued him.

    The incident took place Friday in China’s southern province of Guangxi.


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    Little else is known about the incident, which was first reported in China’s official state news agency, Xinhua. The children, aged between 6 and 12, were reportedly sitting down for lunch at a day care center in a local Pingan county residential compound when the man entered and began swinging at them with an ax.

    Wounded children — some severely injured — were rushed to local area hospitals. Police who arrived at the scene were able to disarm the man and arrest him.

    Police were still investigating the motivation behind the attack.


    Violent incidents against children are not rare in mainland China. In the past two years, a string of attacks at schools and day care centers involving lone attackers rattled the country, culminating with a series of three consecutive school attacks that took place over a three-day period in 2010.

    In one of the incidents, Xu Yuyuan, 47, entered a Jiangsu province school in April 2010 and stabbed 29 children and three teachers. Xu told a court the next month that he wanted to "vent his rage against society," and that he was angry after a series of public humiliations and unsuccessful business ventures.

    Determined to show that authorities were getting tough on crime against children, the court sentenced Xu to death after a half-day trial.

    At the time, officials and social commentators argued that the incidents were isolated and committed by mentally unstable persons or those with extreme grievances against the government.

    Many around the country, however, argued the attacks underscored both increasing societal pressures on Chinese people and an urgent need for China to overhaul how it approaches mental health evaluation and treatment.

    Earlier this year, Chinese legislatures had begun discussion on much needed mental health law reforms.

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    China needs to implement tougher ax laws. Ax free school zones , mandatory ax registration. Get the UN committee on reducing the proliferation of axes worldwide.

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  • 15
    Sep
    2011
    5:14am, EDT

    Overloaded? 66 children crammed into back of minivan

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    By Ed Flanagan, NBC News

    BEIJING – Dara Brown from MSNBC.com reported on a strange story coming out of China’s Hebei province about a minivan pulled over by police earlier this week that was crammed with 66 children. The kids - between four and five years old - were piled into a van designed for eight people that had been modified with rows of wooden benches for the children to sit on.

    Police in Qianan city pulled over the minivan and disciplined the driver according to relevant driving laws. 12 police vans were later called in to take the children home safely.

     

     

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    To take the children safely "home" ????!!!!!!! Like ONE home houses 66 CHILDREN? Sounds like there is a lot more to this story. WHY were THAT number of children in a van? They probably are NOT related. Are they being trafficked in some way or another?

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