well if they kill them, how come they still live in that area. all these report are overexaggerated, i've been there, its not like what the media saids all kill/oppression etc. majority of tibet enjoy better live/raise of income.

I'll take you at your word...I will not be going there to see for myself.

Yeh,right.!! The Tibetans are happy just like the Gypsies,Jews,Slavs,handicapped and millions of others were happy to be tortured and murdered by the Nazis.This is not exagerated.China is committing cultural and often physical genocide against the Tibetans.The evidence has been in for decades.The profound and rich culture of Tibetan Buddhism is being exterminated by the Chinese!These are the same crimes that the Nazis were hung for at Nuremburg.But in this case there is no one who can judge them in court!

soo2wjh are you chinese?

Tibet is like the conquest of the West, we killed, took the Native American people land, brought economic and technological advancements and now they are happy running casinos. As we won't do to the Native Americans, the Chinese won't give away Tibet to the Tibetans, the stronger always wins.

I didn't do anything of the sort. I wasn't even around. I was born on this soil as any other here. I refuse to feel guilty about something I had no control over.

Can we learn a lesson from the actions of our ancestors? I think so since we don't run around killing each other wholesale like our ancestors.

People conjuring up an atmosphere of division is the single largest problem we have in our nation today. It contributes negativity only in our centuries long war on racism. I think our nation has come a long way and has a long way to go...but we are moving forward. China is not.

...you are right about one thing romilio, the stronger always win.

People should remember that when they question why we finance our military to the fullest extent possible.

Totally off on a ranting tangent but I do that lots anyway.

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The only country known to commit cultural and often physical genocide is israel against the Palestinians. The evidence has been in decades.

Both denial and stupidity are incredibly dangerous Henrich. Which one are you? I would think with a name like you supposedly have there that you would know your Nazi...I mean, German history.

So they define "happy" as "dont want to set self on fire?" Keep in mind what the chinese call tibetians are the chinese Han living there.

Sounds like something a Chinese Donald Trump would say-Tibet is the happiest place in China.....LMAO!!!

HvD, that was a very lame derail. The subject is Tibet and their happiness. I'm sure the Tibetans would not be very happy with your view. Neither would other cultures / countries over the centuries.

It's amazing that violence against ones own person (or provoking violence against ones own person by antagonizing police) is held up as something noble. This is the behavior of deeply disturbed people who hate themselves in a very real way.

I can't see why these people shouldn't be viewed as every bit as wacko and extreme as the people who fly jets into buidlings.

Good morning Chef. Anybody know the Chinese word for denial?

Henrich, why is that with almost every post you try to turn it into your very own well known anti-Israel forum. Give it a rest! It is lame and idiotic and really gets old after a while. You are way off topic here. This has nothing to do with Israel except in your imagination.

HEY ED!!!

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It's amazing that violence against ones own person (or provoking violence against ones own person by antagonizing police) is held up as something noble. This is the behavior of deeply disturbed people who hate themselves in a very real way.

The idea is one of martyrdom; sacrificing one's life for a cause. It has nothing to do with ordinary, personal suicide.

Surely one has to be slightly unhinged and WAY too enthusiastic about their cause to kill themselves for it, but it at least has nothing to do with self-hatred.

And obviously, they're different from violent terrorists because they (usually) don't hurt other people in the process. If you want to see them as just as "extreme" as bombers, well, that's a subjective thing.

Wow, chu chu fly is pestering again.

Henrich, one word. Flyswatter!

Henrich, in regards to your comment on cultural genocide. Don't read a lot of history do you. Ever hear of Rwanda in Africa, or events in Bosnia in the 1980's and 90's? They made what you claim is happening to the Palestinians look like child's play! If you are going to post something, at least post something factual!

fgh - soo2wjh are you Chinese? (well if they kill them, how come they still live in that area. all these report are overexaggerated, i've been there, its not like what the media saids all kill/oppression etc. majority of tibet enjoy better live/raise of income.)

Is there a doubt? He is outright lying, or he has been brainwashed by the Chinese gov't. Probably both. I've been there to, and the Tibetans are devastated that their beautiful culture has been extinguished and they have been made to abandon their language and speak only Chinese. That's happiness, all right. Yeah, sure.

Henrich The Palistinian's have 2 names to blame for their plight. Hamas and Hezbollah. Prior to them the Palistinian's lived and thrived along side the Israelis. The Israelis treated them better than their Islamic brethren. The 7 day war changed everything and the Arafat came along and the Israelis had to take a more protective stand.

I want to hear free Tibetians say they are happy, not Chinese communist politicians.....smuggle some out and let them stay here where Chinese athorities cannot touch them and let's then see if they were happy over there...I'm doubtful. How stupid do they think we are to believe such a think from the very people who are supressing the Tibetians.

I have my own theory as to why China occupies Tibet though. I think it is to secure China's fresh water supplies. All the water that flows through China's rivers comes from sores of ice in the Himalayas and could easily be compromised if they were unable to protect it. It is a strategic resource for them and they are protecting it...just my thoughts. I don't agree with their actions but it is a theory of mine.

Why yes! The Tibetans are plumb "tickled to death"!

lmao

Another thought Mac...I really should proof read my posts...lol. That last one was sloppy on my part.

sores of ice...lol....obviously I mean stores. There are a few others misspellings but that one just sounds weird.

Troy: But you're right about the water. China hasn't any, to speak of. As the seas inundate us, water supplies will be increasingly compromised and future wars will be about water. China is completely aware of its dim prospects for water without Tibet.

We gravely erred when we decided to partner in business with China while completely ignoring their manifest human rights issues. Now they're dealing with our intellectual property rights the same way they deal with their people--and all America is suffering as a result.

Read the article about the U.S. wrench copycatted by China--the Bionic Wrench. The Chinese company now providing Sears with the Max Access copycat under Sears' brand, Craftsman, is being bought by--wait for it--BAIN. And Romney still holds 51% of Bain.

Wonder how much damage to this nation that man has really caused....

Same reason india and pakistan fight over Kashmir -- headwaters.

What cannot be seen behind the picture of that smiling group of Tibetans is most likely a squad of kneeling PLA troops aiming their Chi-Com AK-47's at their backs and telling the Tibetans to smile!

there are plenty tibetan student on chinese visa here in the state, ask them. youll be suprised most are fine with the government. you only here the doom/gloom version of tibet cause thats what media always concentrate on. i've been there, so does my friends, its not all like what the media portray

You are a liar...

soo2wjh many tibetans are buddhist. Buddhists do not believe in disparaging anyone which is why they do not talk about disliking the chinese.

Reminds me of Iranian prez dinnerjacketJerk saying there are no gay people in Iran-- and by gay he meant "happy". ;)

63 Tibetans have self-immolated in protest since February 2009.

The 18-year-old became the seventh Tibetan to set himself on fire in the last week, in an escalating wave of protests as China's leaders gather for a once-in-a-decade power transition.

The man, identified as Gonpo Tsering, set himself alight at 2:00 pm (0600 GMT) in the city of Hezuo in the Tibetan autonomous prefecture of Gannan, Xinhua reported, adding that the case was being investigated.

The incident comes after a wave of similar protests in recent days, which included an 18-year-old man who self-immolated outside a monastery in Huangnan prefecture in Qinghai province, where a 23-year-old woman also died after setting herself alight the previous day.

A trio of young monks aged 16 or under set themselves on fire Wednesday in Aba County, Sichuan province, leaving one (now two dead) and the others injured.

reference - http://www.bangkokpost.com/breakingnews/320579/tibetan-dies-in-self-immolation-in-china-xinhua

For a list of the latest self-immolations see ... http://www.savetibet.org/resource-center/maps-data-fact-sheets/self-immolation-fact-sheet

For a time line of the Tibet incidents see - http://www.cbsnews.com/elements/2008/03/27/in_depth_world/timeline3972050.shtml

For those that think this does not concern the USA - Remember the reception Obama gave the Dalai Lama (2009) and one of the largest parties the White House has ever seen - Was given to the Chinese...

soo, while I can't say that you're lying with any certainty, I can say that your anecdotal evidence doesn't count for much. Even if every Tibetan you've met just loves the government, unless it's your job to collect, organize, and distribute opinions you'll never hear enough of them to get a good picture of how most Tibetans feel about Chinese occupation.

For example, more than 60 Tibetans have killed themselves since 2011. Have you met 60 different, happy Tibetans in two years? Maybe, but that's still an awfully close margin using extremely unscientific samples (people who have immolated themselves against people you've met that don't mind the government isn't exactly a fair comparison).

RT Colorado gave you a plus my mistake because your statement is so absurd I pushed the wrong button.The Dali Lama is an extremely powereful genuine spiritual leader in a long sucession of Dali Lamas.He was trained and initaited from birth! If Colorado ws overcome by brutal mass murderers who occupied your stat,.you´d be angry too.Stop contaminating newsvine with your ridiculous statements!

bart martin-3773750 you have good intentions. So it could only benefit you to search and learn about literary devices such as the one RT Colorado uses. It is called innuendo.

RTColorado: You mean that tongue-in-cheek, right? In posts, you can't be sardonic without giving hints.

Actually since he was 2 years old but close enough for ranting.

fgh: Sorry, NOT innuendo! Innuendo is when one makes a semi-opaque comment to disparage someone else, as in, "Some pro-Romney backers leaked innuendoes about Obama's marriage."

Hopefully, what RTColorado intended about the Dalai Lama was irony, which is when a statement is made intending to mean its exact opposite, as in, "Everybody knows Bush was the best president in American history."

It helps to keep words to their accurate meanings.

kind like here. media here always concentrate on the bad the news worth stuff. they never mention alot tibet are fine with government cause, despite the freedom of speech or religion freedom stuff, the chinese government indeed raise the living standard of alot tibetan/han in that region. if you want to know the truth go there instead watch bias version of fox news

Why would the chinese raise the standard of living for Tibet when they themselves still leave their orphans to live like dogs in the street while they make big bucks selling the organs of their prisoners?

navyvet: I hope you're aware that in our country, the media is wholly owned by corporations. In the 1990s, under House speaker Newt Gingrich, Republican, all truth-in-advertising, free time for political points of view, and all the rest of government regulations over TV went the way of the dodo.

Romney almost won despite never telling the same story the same way twice because the media bent over backwards in a ridiculous attempt to "be fair," thus refusing to challenge the GOP on its fascist radicalization, or question Romney during debates about his sudden turn to Obama-mini-me despite a pre-convention campaign insisting he was "severely conservative." While you're exactly correct about media control, you're exactly wrong about who controls media.

You can thank corporations for that. Obama won despite the media blitz and billions spent by a handful (about 10) multi-billionaires against him. You can thank thoughtful American voters for THAT!

Dee, have you watched any of the media channels? MSNBC has been nothing but a 24/7 Obama political advertisement since some time in 2007. It's the longest running political ad in the history of the nation.

Dee, I know that you were trying to express outrage over the corporate control of the media, but I honestly don't see any of your "problems" as problems. It's good that the media was trying to be fair and unbiased to candidates (you can't really be angry at them for not endorsing your particular complaints about Romney and your political bias). And they didn't have to be, either; since they're owned by corporations (and ultimately by rich people) and not beholden to the government. There should be no government regulations on media. Censorship is the tool of the tyrant, and you should never trust that such an awful power won't be abused. If we can thank corporations for that, then yay corporations!

Three years ago, I took a city college class in chinese culture (and a lot of unassociated problems kept me from passing). The teacher, a professor from mainland China stated more that once that many Chinese people would also prefer to immigrate if they had the means, because of unhappiness with their government.

Rich chinese are coming here to have their anchor babies to make their future escape easier for the same reason.

Yes, they are having anchor babies here, but not necessarily for a future escape. China's economy is on the rise, ours is on the decline. They're just hedging their bets. Kind of like somebody here learning Mandarin Chinese, just in case.

Actually, opinion polls suggest that a great number of the wealthier Chinese would like to emmigrate from the country. America is a prime choice.

Unfortunately, we have a tragically convoluted immigration system that discourages even people who want to bring money into the nation and might start up their own businesses here. So we're doing a good job at keeping the cream of the Chinese crop in China, at least, where they're always "very happy".

Workingman: You're right. Boycotting Chinese products is the only option we have. Unfortunately, it's almost an impossible task. But I'm trying! Make sure to buy the U.S. made Bionic Wrench, and not Sears' Craftsman's Max Access--a Chinese knockoff in the process of being bought by--BAIN.

And what about Chinese-made parts in American goods?

Or Chinese-mined rare earths used in key electronics?

Are you posting this on a smart phone? Good luck finding one without any nasty Communist metals in it.

What I'm trying to say is, a boycott of Chinese goods is nearly impossible, and entirely pointless. It's not as if their disrespect for human rights comes as a result of their trade surplus. And as an up-and-coming new superpower, the United States may have to deal with China as an equal soon. Hopefully this will open the door to diplomatic solutions to China's domestic abuses, because a few petty trade disputes won't do it.

But...but, most ARE happy since most DONT set themselves on fire. :/ (sarcasm for the "sheldons" out there)

Just like an ex-education department head of Hong Kong said:"Only two teachers committed suicide. If our policies were wrong, there should be more."

Of course, to a Han Chinese, being ruled unwillingly by foreign powers is nothing, and not worth dying for. That's why so many Chinese help the invaders: Mongols, Manchus, Europeans, Japanese, over the long 5000 years of so called Chinese history (when only about 1000 is really "Chinese").

Hey man, "Chinese" is just a word. What happens in China is pretty much "Chinese history" by default. Nitpicking on a basis of ethinic division just muddies the waters.

Tragic and foolish to some perhaps, but I guess it boils down to how much one believes in what one is willing to die for.