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Subscribe to RSSSeptember 18, the anniversary of Japan's 1931 invasion of Manchuria, is seen as a day of national humiliation in China, marked by protests even when relations with Japan are stable. This year's anniversary came amidst a Sino-Japanese dispute over an island chain called the Senkaku islands in Japanese and known to Chinese as the Diaoyu islands. NBC's Angus Walker reports.
BEIJING – Following a weekend of anti-Japanese protests that engulfed China, demonstrations hit a crescendo Tuesday with the 81st anniversary of the start of Japan’s occupation of China.
The Mukden Incident, also known as the Manchurian Incident, was a staged bombing by the Japanese military that served as the pretext for the Japanese invasion of China in 1931.
The painful anniversary served to enflame a dispute that has been growing for months over ownership of East China Sea islands called the Senkaku in Japan and Diaoyu in China.
Emotional anniversary reignites anti-Japan protests in China
During recent protests in more than 80 cities across China, Chinese citizens have expressed themselves by taking to the streets and loudly demonstrating outside of Japanese consulates, businesses and online. However, unlike previous protests on the mainland in recent years, the collective anger has been well-documented and disseminated freely online, giving us a unique look at Chinese nationalism unleashed.
See images of some of the more unusual expressions of anti-Japanese anger below.
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This is ridiculous. The Chinese are angry that got a little taste of their own medicine. This is a country that clearly ignored their international neighbors down south and built a garrison in the Spratly's in the middle of the night.
they need to go back to their sweatshops and make more crap and knock offs as it is the only thing they are good at.
hilarious because Japan is a much smaller nation but it has gotten China's panties in a bunch, once AGAIN!
maybe they should stick to bullying tiny countries that are still in the stone age like Tibet.
Chinese wow talk about shooting off your own foot. I hope the Japanese keep the factories closed.
The Chinese workers there after a few weeks will be thinking it was not such a good plan for the Chinese government to do what they did.
Then after a short time without work and no money coming in watch the uprising to start against the Chinese government. I am so happy that the Japanese stood up to this paper tiger. The Chinese have no Navy only Sampans.
The Chinese government allowed people to attack the US ambassador. If that happened here the and someone attacked the Chinese Ambassador the Chinese would attack our factories and burn them.
The underdog always complains!
Outside of major city centrals, go to China's metropolitan areas, towns, and villages... look at how dirty the streets are and how poor, if not impoverished, the living conditions are! Japan on the other hand, is phenomenally cleaner and better off... even in the distant mountain villages. Heck amongst all Asian countries, Japan is the cleanest and has the best living conditions.
If you want something tangible to compare with... It's like comparing America to Mexico!
china needs to be watched carefully. They have been quite beligerent and have disputes with all neighboring countries.
First of all, blame yourself for buying crap that nobody wants. Your American's life is in disarray because of your life style. You American company gave the specs to China to make crap. You tell the Chinese to make the things your own corporations want them to make. So don't blame on others.
Second, you have to understand history if you really understand it. Unless you are an ignorant idiot as many of tea baggers are in America.
Know why Chinese and Koreans hate Japanese so bad. What Japanese did to Asians is far worse than what the Nazis did to the Israelis. Yes, Japanese killed less people in Asia, but they killed them for fun. They staged killing games, they tortured Chinese and Koreans, they raped Chinese and Korean women, they did biological experiment on Chinese and Koreans, and they used them as lab mice for medical experiments!
How do you Americans feel or any country feel if they did all those things to you?
AND
They do not, to this day, admit all that. They do not put history in their textbooks. Nazis are far more humane compare to them. Germans face their own history and reflect in their own actions. What do Japan do?
Take that America!! FACTS America! Come on America! You are better than this! I hope at least.
Don't just hate China for being China.
Truth Hurts-2925249,
Do you even know what China has done to countries they invaded through out history? Oh wait... Japan committed their atrocities most recently so they only count. Seriously, GoFuYoSe!
BTW, if you read your comment with a cheesy Chinese accent, it sounds more believable... ROFLMAO!!!
TruthHurts:
I'm American, which really may have something to do with this or may not. That's up to you, if you wish to classify everything by nationality. I don't.
What difference does it make to hate people for something that happened so long ago? What good does it do to spread your hate around and keep hating people based on nationality due to some bad stuff that happened in the past?
Think about your personal relationships, and compare it to your political attitudes. If somebody's father or grandfather did something to your father or grandfather, are you really going to hate them for that? What did they have to do with it? You should really consider stop looking so much at the past and try to set a good example for the future.
But instead what example do you set? You create bad feelings, you say abusive things to people who in this generation had nothing to do with history. In fact the only reason you feel so passionately about injuries of the past is because your education system has told you to hate people because of what happened before. This is called holding a grudge... and promoting it.
Come on. Really, what is the best way? It is not to keep holding onto the past and waving it in peoples' faces. You may have a point that Germany did a better job in some ways than Japan in coming to terms with its history. But really, all of this stuff about the past is just theater. Who cares? Let's live for the present and the future. Stop being so bitter about everything. China is doing pretty good these days. Don't be an ugly superpower.
I don't claim to know the exact history of these particular islands. I am half Filipino and half Chinese and my Grandfather fought for the Americans during WW2 when the Japanese occupied the Phillippines. (I also have 3 uncles that have served in the American navy.) I'm not saying that throughout history the Chinese are completely innocent, but after hearing stories of how my Grandfather narrowly escaped being killed by the Japanese, the Japanese invasion of China and of course Pearl Harbour, I do understand how many Chinese people feel.
During those times, the Japanese killed ruthlessly. They stabbed pregnant women in the bellies, raped nuns, etc. However, despite learning about all of this, my familiy and I have befriended many Japanese people who for the most part are very beautiful people.
I learned that the reason we learn history is so that we are not doomed to repeat it. Despite being good friends with many Japanese, it does also anger me when I find out that the Japanese have wiped out the negative parts of their history from their texts, that their (albeit old) politicians still worship the graves of internationally recognized war criminals, how the Japanese protested the making of the movie, Pearl Harbour, etc. As someone previously mentioned here, unlike the Germans, the Japanese do not hold themselves accountable for what they have done, not only to China, but to many countries. Actions like these make me doubt what the true intentions of the Japanese government are (at least the older generations of the Japanese people).
It saddens me to read the many racist remarks directed mostly at the Chinese. I feel sorry for you racist people because I truly believe you are brainwashed by whatever news channel you are watching down in the States. You hate the Chinese and put them down, but yet the country you live in relies on China to help it out of the economic uncertainty. It's people like you who really make the world a sad, sicker place to live and I'm just glad I don't have to live next to you.
The racist attitude shown on this board definitely shows how your government can pull off invading Iraq, Afghanistan (for which my cousin risked his life in), etc. You show no compassion, understanding or openness to other people and outrageously justify in your own racist eyes the killing of scores of innocent lives. But no, you don't care, because it's not in your backyard. Go and watch your fear mongering television set! China and Japan are going to start WW3, Iran is going to bomb the U.S., Iraq had WMDs, etc. Oh my God you people!
actually the phillipines offred to co-develop the island down south where they, china and Philipines will split the profit 50-50, china is eager to accept. HOWEVER the phillipines dident follow up on their bargons, in stead of giving vhina's due from the oil, they bought weapons and wnet to the U.S saying they(phillipines) own this land, and it is ok for the U.S to build bases their. Natural China would cath on and become very very angry, so they decided "If thats how your going to play it, im building my own base there"... which they did, so China was not really at fult for this one incident.
Truth Hurts,
What did we do to the Japanese for their attrocities on the Chinese and Koreans you ask?
Drop 2 nuclear bombs on them. Good enough response for you?
Truth Hurts says,
"What did we do to the Japanese for their attrocities on the Chinese and Koreans you ask?
Drop 2 nuclear bombs on them. Good enough response for you?"
The dropping of those bombs had NOTHING to do with China or Korea.It was purely because we wanted to end the war without an all out invasion of Japan.An invasion that American generals told President Truman could cost up to a million American dead.
Like some posters have said above,Japan committed horrible war crimes in China.Unlike the war against Hitler 1939-1945.The Japanese war against China was from 1931-1945.Millions of Chinese were killed and vast areas of the country devastated.In one atrocity alone, the so-called 'Rape of Nanking" around a million Chinese were slaughtered by a Japanese army run amuck in an orgy of rape and murder.Even the Nazi German Embassy sheltered Chinese in the Embassy from the Japanese butchers in Nanking.Just how horrible it must have been to get the NAZIS to think it was ok to protect the victims.There were films made by the proud Japanese of them beheading Chinese, and others bayoneting their victims in pits.Anyone looking can easily find them on Youtube.They also had camps where they used Chinese prisoners and even,as we know now some Americans,as test animals in medical experiments that would make Dr Mengele proud. Unlike the Germans who admitted and apologized after the war for their crimes,the Japanese have never took the responsibly for their crimes.That is what feeds the anti-Japanese feelings today,not just in China,but throughout the Asian countries the Japanese occupied in the war.For nationalist political reasons in Japan,their history books gloss over what they did in the war.And pandering for votes some of their politicians go the Shinto temples where war criminals are buried to pray.Knowing what that says to the world,more denial of history.As some people posted,that was a long time ago,true.Yet Americans don't forget Pearl Harbor or D-Day.The Israelis haven't forgotten the Holocaust.And even today Nazi war criminals are still being hunted.So I don't see how the Chinese should just "forgive and forget",especially as unlike the Germans,Japan doesn't even admit their guilt.A good first step would be for Japan to admit and apologize for what they did.That one step alone could see a change for the better in Japan's relations with all their neighbors.
No! They belong to ME! Because I said so wah wah wah.
LOL China ... Japan would woop your ball$!
Because America is now Japan's ally? Maybe...
But more interestingly, China holds the largest majority of American debt, which means that China would be financing the Allies war against themselves!
the RUSSIANS said, if China fights Japan, Japan would fall in a week, if U.S enters then China will be defeated, however in 10 years China will be able to compeate with us(russia), in 20 years they(China) will be strong enough to compete with the U.S.
It is like anything else in the universe, what you have is what you are willing and able to fight for. Always someone that thinks he can come and take it and you will not resist. i.e. bully. People have even tried to make laws and claims on the Moon but as you might expect, the one that has claim is the one that can keep it. Humanity sucks and you can't change that.
The PRC is playing a very dangerous game here - attempting to stifle rebellion by government sanctioned pogroms designed to distract the populace. The trouble is, if you catch a tiger by the tail, you cannot let it go - what happens when the people's voice demands the genocide of the Japanese, and the PRC has to give in to these demands in order to save face and solidify its legitimacy? World War III, that's what.
actually the gov't would probably stifle it, unlike us where we proceeded to kill hundreds of thousands if not millions in Iraq and Afghanistan
Seems the Chinese don't like it when they can't get their way like they do with the U.S. China craps all over the U.S. and doesn't get a peep out of us. But it's a different story with Japan. I think Japan could kick China's Butt and China knows it.
Tarzan, go back to your jungle.
You are the ones line up 3 o'clock in the morning in front of the Walmart to buy loads of crap the Chinese don't want. Your American corporation tells the Chinese to make cheap crap, and tell them how to make it. Blame on your American corporations. Can you think just a little deeper? maybe that requires too much of your brain cells.
If US don't interfere like they always do all over the world, China could easily whoop Japan. However, China is smart enough not to do it. Why? Why China would want start a war and put blood on their hands, when the Japanese already did? Chinese are not conquers like Japan, Germans, and United states.
Wow! ROFLAMO! You're killing me! Just stop! Seriously! No, please! Stop!!!
Tarzen7, If you go to China and see the quality of goods in their stories, you would never embarrass yourself with comment like this anymore. I have to say that I feel like a homeless person on the street in China, because the quality of outfit those people wear are ten times better than mine.
Your an idiot.... China and Taiwan both said to Japan "OK then lets not call this island anyones island, well make it work out with co development and split the profite evenly." Japan SAID "NO! This is my Island!" Also Japan is acing very hostile because of its presidential elections, where to get elected you muct seem to look like you have more power then the other party leader. ALSO when a certain country bombed a certain two city in Japan, they also maid sure Japan will not hold any form of armed forces other then SDF (Self-Defense-Force), just as well it is in the japaense constitution to not use SDF to activly engage in war or hold or excied a certain number of troops that make up the SDF.
Since they are uninhabited tiny clumps it seems insane to stir such a fuss so that its Chinese people who don't live there instead of Japanese people who don't live there.
i agree... its not like taking over a populated internationally recognized independent sovereign nation by force like.... Hawaii (which is hundreds of times further away too)
China claimed the island on their map way before Japan forcefully took over. With the history of Japan killing, torturing, and raping the Chinese and Koreans and other Asians, the fact that now Japan is taking over the island is like opening an unhealed wound.
Let the Japanese admit their history like the Germans and let their action speak for themselves first.
Nazis were much more humane than the Japanese.
Theres actually a tremendous supply of Oil down there.... such resource would help Taiwan, if the Japanese hadent of course used the excuse of a home owner that lives there or owns the land. First the land belongs to and always have been to the Taiwanese (ROC), Secound The island is a public location opean to anyone to fish or walk on the island. Lastly this one Japanese family went there and planted some crops and then built their home there, declaring it is their island, which is redicules. So the decendint of that one family said it was theirs and the Japanese goverment said they will by the island for 2.1million yen/doller.
I am a Chinese American, but I don't agree with what they are doing in China right now, the Chinese government is using nationalism of her people as a tool to test the water with Japan. Remember Third Reich and the Sudetenland, the only different this time is they are only rocks and no inhabitants. This is going to turn into a much bigger conflict and whether we(US) like it or not, they are going to pull us in.
Hyperbole by referencing the Third Reich isn't going to help. And the Japanese gov't too is using nationalism, as have Japanese right-wing nationals who have landed on the islands. The main point though for me is the US is hardly an objective player. The historical context is clear, it was chinese prior to Japanese colonization, and after WW2 the US refused to recognize the PRC so demarcated the islands with Japan as Japan's.
You pull yourself in.
You pull yourself in to protect a country that conquered, massacred, raped, tortured, and not admitting their guilt, and not even mentioning it in their own textbooks.
You are not Asian, you will not understand it. But you need to respect it. Respect the history! and Respect the people.
Truth Hurts-2925249,
Which country are you talking about? Because I could list about a hundred that fall under such description... And yes, America is included because of what they did to the Natives.
" unlike previous protests on the mainland in recent years, the collective anger has been well-documented and disseminated freely online, giving us a unique look at Chinese nationalism unleashed. " How convenient, NOW the Chinese government tolerates a free WEB . . . guess how long this will last. Yep, as long as it takes to shove their wants down someone else's (Japan's) throat. Look, Japan bought the islands fair and square and China blew it, it's called free enterprise. If China wanted it, they should have bought it. Instead they FELT it was theirs and should have been given to them. Well tough turd pals, it's called FREE ENTERPRISE! Heard about it? You bet, that's why your kicking our butts and liking it. Feel good?
Sovereignty cannot be bought. japan NEEDED to puchase it in order to claim it's theirs. That proved that their claim does not stick.
Daioyu Islands has been documented in Chinese history books since the 16th century. japan invaded China in 1895 and annexed Taiwan. Daioyu Islands are part of the Taiwan perfecture. WWII surrendering agreement dictated that japan return ALL invaded terroritories to their rightful owners, that's China.
You ignorant, racist amerikkkans are shouting racist rants against China because they beat you at your own free enterprise game. You are losing jobs and investments over to China because you people are too lazy and cost too much to hire. Business has the right to shop around for the best deal they can get for their investments. You lost and you are all sour losers.
Actually as YOU stated, the Island belongs to Taiwan.
It's only fair and square if the original "owner" had the right to own it the first place. And the Chinese strongly dispute that.
So, you idiot. You want to buy the moon from me? Oh, wait, you spent all your money on all the crap that your American corporation ask the Chinese to make.
O.K. Here's what we want you to say: "The Diaoyu islands belong to China". No, "Dayooo", not "dia uuu". Use great enthusiasm. It doesn't matter where they are just go out and protest. The loudest will get tea and almond cookies after. Go!
Diaoyu Island belongs to Taiwan Yelan Precinct. As Taiwan is part of China, therefore Diaoyu belongs to China. Period.
China-bashers stay out of this territorial dispute.
Fine, and since during the Yuan Dynasty, China was ruled by Mongolians, all of China now belongs to Mongolia. See how that works?
um, this is quite different, Taiwan still exists and is a US ally (which often isn't worth much as the US flip-flops a lot)
Taiwan is smart, they shut up. They let the big guys go at it. Or the American "FREE" media just chose ignore them.
This make me wonder, what would happen if China shut up and let Taiwan and Japan go at it? What would the self proclaimed "world police", America do?
soolong, you are so wrong about this. Mongolians has always been one of manority group of China. Any one from Mongolian, or Han, or any other ethnic group have the right to take the central power of China, just like American presidents have been from different state of the U.S. At the time Mongolians was in the central power of China, they call the country under their ruling China, not Mongolia.
Laugh????, the Mongols didn't call China, China. No one called China China until the idiotic communists "declared" that "a new" nation existed in 1949. 1949......that's AFTER the 14th Century, AFTER 1835, after all these "ancient times" the idiots in PRC keep whining about....Hence, the Senkaku Islands NEVER belonged to China. Ever. Not once ever in history.
The Republic of China (that's Taiwan), held them before the ROC wised up and left for Taiwan, taking the islands with them. (I say "wised up" because they certainly prospered after leaving the idiotic mainland.) When Japan invaded Taiwan, and later China, the USA drew the lines in such a way that Japan had administrative control over the islands. So if Taiwan, the Republic of China, wants to make a claim, fine....but that is their business, not China's.
NO ONE IN THE WORLD believes this stupid nonsense about Taiwan being an "integral part of China". Taiwan wants nothing to do with China, and everyone else supports them in this! The only person that can't seem to get over it, or over the Senkaku islands, is the stupid communist government in PRC, which is setting an embarrassing example for Chinese people in the way they handle this situation. Then again, the "government" of the PRC has never, ever in its history been able to do anything right, so this is not surprising.
Further, your completely ignorant and racist remark "Mongolians have always been a (sic) minority group of China" is laughable. Mongolians are not minorities in Mongolia, and they were not a minority when they controlled what is now China (and I would imagine they did so for the better). Further, if you Han people knew how to use a friggin condom, you wouldn't be the majority, and the dozens and dozens of "minorities" in today's China would be able to kick your sorry asses for insisting on systemically destroying their culture.
FYI, I live and work in Beijing, and I have traveled extensively throughout the country and seen the damage the worthless CCP/PRC government has caused. China's biggest enemy is China.
Dont forget the Yee people, another of China's minorities in upper Mongolia. I learned that at Epcot. I knew it would come in handy someday!
But seriously, this is what happened in the 1930's. Different aggressor, same parties. Let's keep the nationalism down to shouting
"We're number One! We're number One! No harm, no foul. Hopefully our Government [USA! USA!] will have the discerrnment to know when to keep our noses out and when to facilitate a peaceful solution.
Andrew says-"FYI, I live and work in Beijing, and I have traveled extensively throughout the country and seen the damage the worthless CCP/PRC government has caused. China's biggest enemy is China."
Well after that racist anti-Chinese rant,you better hope the PRC doesn't fix that living and working in Beijing problem for you,lol.
China is messing with the most powerful sleeping tiger in East Asia. 81 years ago, Japan had ruled most of East Asia including China and Korea!!! A few hundred thousand Japaneses had beat the @!$%# out of 10 million plus Chinese soldiers (communist and nationalist combined), and chasing them to their mountainous hiding places near India where they received protection by American volunteer pilots!!! All Chinese are basically coward when facing a capable enemy. They are bullying Japan because they have more soldiers, guns, ships, plane and nukes, but their weapons are just cheap copy of old Russia weapons. That is why I never see China try to sell any gun, tank, ship or plane in an international show.
Japan is like America prior to Pearl Harbor. Once Japaneses are angry enough to change their constitution (after China sinks a few Japan ships), Japan will have more and better guns, ships, planes and nukes than China within 1-2 years.
I am sure that the coward and stupid Chinese will cool off and accept a face-saving deal such as sharing the natural resources around the disputed island; otherwise, history will repeat itself, and communist China shall be begging capitalist America to save them from imperialist Japan!!!
America has been spending billions every protecting Japan because we can not let Japan does the defense by itself. America does not want to fight another war with Japan to save the world because we may not win!!!
China is also playing heavily on Article 9 of the Japanese Constitution.
V. Nugent, You must be another tea bagger eh?
guns, guns, and guns.
If you support the Japan's WWII aggression, you must be a Nazi, or extreme Nazi.
Nothing more can be said with you. You are the lowest of the lowest in humanity.
Truth Hurts-2925249,
You're not making sense! Ah... You're trolling! Now that makes sense!
v. nugent, Japan was not like America before Pearl Harbor. Japan was Nazi in the east and more evil one than Germany. Your comment clearly showed that you are one of those evil bounch, the trash of human race.
people should stop talking about war!!! we don;'t need another war. live in peace. china and japan can share the resources, but i doubt this will happen because the senkaku islands are under japanese control, and those japanese nationalist would rather die (remember kamakaze) than give the islands away. chinese better remember who they f with because they are pushing to fight with a historically militaristic country.
@Nugent, You are a true coward and retarded.
While China and Japan do nothing but shout at each other and play immature passive, aggressive games of sea tag, tiny Taiwan's actually doing something: trying to block Japan's Olympics bid as a sanction for their agressive behavior.. They may not be in a position to fight or command headlines every time they spew some absurdity or other, but at least they're standing up for themselves.
I love the idea. Japan deserve nothing like hosting Olympics on the world stage.
Laugh????, whenever an associate from overseas comes to Beijing, 100% of the time at some point during his or her stay in the north capital, they exclaim, "THIS hosted the Olympics?!?!?!?!?"
Sorry China haters. I'm for the guys that didn't bomb Pearl Harbor.
And by the way, why has Japan even been allowed to rebuild their
evil navy? How stupid is stupid??
Does that mean you're for the guys who fought us in Korea?
Oh I know! because American love guns!!! :) Am I right?
They sell guns to anyone. They even sold guns to Taliban. I might be wrong, I think just gave them for free. Oh well, close enough...
These must be a gene for redneck mentality. Let me shoot first, and then I can talk, and then maybe think.
soolong, During Korea war, China and America are in the same posision. That is helping one of Korean forces, not invading Korea. Japan was the vicious invader in WWII to many countries, including America. We were the ally of all those countries Japan invaded.
Laugh????
Your a Chinnesse national or fing crazy
China is a Bully that needs its face slapped down. Time to teach China to step into line and stop demanding territoriies that do not belong to China. Get along with your neighbors, China. Stop creating conflicts. The world needs Japan to keep a strong military just for these reasopns of China going on a binge to seize and claim territory that isnt theirs. China thinks that by intimidation it will get whatever it wants. Dont buy Chinese goods whenever possible.
America is the bully, it joins in wars that kill its own people on someone else's land, without knowing what its really like to have a war in your country. In the end the countries they're 'allying' just want them to leave.
@Curious boy, get in line for a real... good WHIP, it's about time! LMFAO
If.. these islands belong to the Chinese then why haven't they paid the back property taxes to Japan? Someone needs to own up to the responsibility and quit trying to play silly political games. If they, the islands, were located on the Moon then things would be the same. Quit all the bull@!$%# and talk straight talk. Life is short
To those who hate China:
See what Japan did to Chinese people in WWII
The chinnesse dim wits took over 3 countrys in the past 70 years. They kill 300,000,000 of their own people in the Great leap forward. They have attacked every single one of their neiabors in the past 50 years. China is the new Nazis.
dai1902
Your uneducated or not an American or a flat out LAIR thats just causes trouble
idiot trantham, Which "3 countrys in the past 70 years" China took over? Give up the names of those countries.
Tibet, inner Mongolia, Uyghurstan(East Turkestan)
How can dai1902 be uneducated by stating the Japan did horrible things to people in China during WW2?
Trantham-"Tibet, inner Mongolia, Uyghurstan(East Turkestan)"
You must be joking or trying to spread mis-information.Counting on Americans not reading history,lol. Those areas were Chinese territories long before the US was even thought of.At various times in China's 5 thousand years as a nation.In times of China's weakness,they and some other areas broke away from China (as the South in the US did in 1860).But then when China regained their strength,those areas were reclaimed by China.China's history for centuries is one of non-aggression (in not grabbing other countries),but of only holding on to their territory.This fear of China wanting to rule the world is paranoia.China's only claims are for territories stolen from China.Other than that,China wants peaceful relations with its neighbors.
Put Http:// in front of the following line, and copy to your browser address bar.
bbs.news.163.com/bbs/zhongri/268064168.html
DEATH to CHioNA
To those who hate China:
See what Japan did to Chinese people in WWII: (Copy the following line to your browser addressbar)
bbs.news.163.com/bbs/zhongri/268064168.html
SHUT UP China killed 3 hundred million of their own people
you fing Chinnesse spy DEATH TO CHINA!!!! Free Tibet!!!!!
To Trantham,
That's The Rape of Nanking. You should shup up if you know nothing about the world history.
Yeh you Chinnesse really give a crap about your people. YOUR great leap forward Destoryed entire FAMILYS.
You evi Chinesse ANZIS. You evil people Kill Millions of Tibetians, Mons, South Koreans, Uraks.
YOU ARE THE EVILS ONES. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO COMPLAIN!!!!1
Hypocrits
dai1902
HYPOCRIT
These American idiots are traitors who love the Japs and are clueless about history. They are the most racist people on Earth so no use trying to convince them anything
they say they hate China but dont know why, they say free Tibet but dont know the reason, they bitch and complain about Chinese "stealing" their jobs but cant explain why its Americans who open factories in China
LOL
@jsmithzzzzz, cannot agree more with you. If these Chinese-haters on this blog are truely Americans then they are completely idiots. They forgot their ancestors had to nuke Japanese to avenge their own 3000 some deaths from the evil Japanese attacks on Pearl Harbor. If Chinese are only 0.001% as revengeful as Americans, Japanese would have been wiped out of this planet by now. Japanese killed at least 80 millions innocent Chinese civilians.
By their own actions it would appear some misguided, wayward, ignorant Chinese are no better than Islamic radicals, failing to consider their actions. Sad to see so many people haven't got a clue about their actions, blindly following some clueless leader/babooze whipping up a frenzy. So much for living to Asian values. Chinese leaders fail to realize how in the eyes of the world, they have lost face, lost respect, lost value. With actions like these China will never be seen as a world leader. Misguided Chinese would be wise to follow the lead of true leaders like USA's Dr. Martin Luther King, India's Mahatma Gandi, or South Africa's Nelson Mandela, all who preached non violence, compassion, making amends with your enemy. Sorry China, thousands of years of history and you have shown you learned nothing. Sad, very sad.
I suggest you do some serious and honest research into just how it is this particular mess came about. You'll find that there is plenty of fault on both sides and a bit more on the Japanese one. You do realize that Noda's also come pretty close blows with South Korea, over the same issue but another group of islands, don't you? Of course, neither country is remotely in the right in the China and Japan case.. the islands belong to neither of them, but the balance of fault does not fall with China on this dispute.
And you're comparing China to Islamists? Seriously? That's just idiotic. We may not like China but to the best of my knowledge they don't blow up buildings or call down jihads or fatwas on people who even mildly criticize Confucius. I spent 8 years living in China as an American expat... and 3 more years living in an Arab country I won't name 'cause if I bash it somebody might blow me up. I can assure with complete confidence that living in China is far far closer to living in the US compared with the Middle Eastern experience.
I don't claim to know the exact history of these particular islands. I am half Filipino and half Chinese and my Grandfather fought for the Americans during WW2 when the Japanese occupied the Phillippines. (I also have 3 uncles that have served in the American navy.) I'm not saying that throughout history the Chinese are completely innocent, but after hearing stories of how my Grandfather narrowly escaped being killed by the Japanese, the Japanese invasion of China and of course Pearl Harbour, I do understand how many Chinese people feel.
During those times, the Japanese killed ruthlessly. They stabbed pregnant women in the bellies, raped nuns, etc. However, despite learning about all of this, my familiy and I have befriended many Japanese people who for the most part are very beautiful people.
I learned that the reason we learn history is so that we are not doomed to repeat it. Despite being good friends with many Japanese, it does also anger me when I find out that the Japanese have wiped out the negative parts of their history from their texts, that their (albeit old) politicians still worship the graves of internationally recognized war criminals, how the Japanese protested the making of the movie, Pearl Harbour, etc. As someone previously mentioned here, unlike the Germans, the Japanese do not hold themselves accountable for what they have done, not only to China, but to many countries. Actions like these make me doubt what the true intentions of the Japanese government are (at least the older generations of the Japanese people).
It saddens me to read the many racist remarks directed mostly at the Chinese. I feel sorry for you racist people because I truly believe you are brainwashed by whatever news channel you are watching down in the States. You hate the Chinese and put them down, but yet the country you live in relies on China to help it out of the economic uncertainty. It's people like you who really make the world a sad, sicker place to live and I'm just glad I don't have to live next to you.
The racist attitude shown on this board definitely shows how your government can pull off invading Iraq, Afghanistan (for which my cousin risked his life in), etc. You show no compassion, understanding or openness to other people and outrageously justify in your own racist eyes the killing of scores of innocent lives. But no, you don't care, because it's not in your backyard. Go and watch your fear mongering television set! China and Japan are going to start WW3, Iran is going to bomb the U.S., Iraq had WMDs, etc. Oh my God you people!
Ah yes Japan claims the islands on the anniversary of the great Manchurian Invasion(1931-The REAL start of WW2).
Japan celebrates it's "great victories from WW2" in private but clearly they would like to change that eh?
And why not, Japan has yet to officially apologize for it's "great victories" in WW2.
Japan makes Germany look like a real nice guy, even counting 1939-1945.
You pro-Japan and pro-China nuts are both just as bad, completely ignoring the third claimant just because they don't have a lot of advanced weapon systems to enforce their claim. The islands are a hundred miles from Taiwan, 500 from Japan proper and 300 from China proper. They were, for over a century, part of a Taiwan municipality before Japan conquered Taiwan in 1895 and separated their prize into pieces, separating out the Senkakus/Tiaoyutais and administratively reattaching them to Japan.
Since it would appear that Taiwan actually has the paperwork to back up their claim, they alone have called for the matter to be arbitrated by the Intl Court of Justice - something that BOTH Japan and China have categorically rejected.. In fact, which some reports say Japan and China are actually - even as they quarrel publicly - working together to oppose.
In short, y'all are disregarding the very plausible claim of a vibrant, prosperous democracy - possibly the healthiest and freest society in that part of the world, to favor that of an authoritarian Chinese government and an unstable, collapsing Japanese government, just because they're bigger and meaner. China has its issues, and, to stay afloat, the Noda government has aggressively resurrected claims against not only Chins, but also South Korea and Russia, at the same moment in time. This seems wrong to me.
CaliforniaFirst, I completely agree with you, but the problem with this plan is that the complete idiots saying that they run the mainland will immediately say "and Taiwan "province" is an integral part of China".
Recognizing the PRC was the worst mistake the USA made in recent history. And Nixon should have been executed for "opening up" China. The worst mistake of all Americans, today, is buying goods from China.
China's free to continue to make their "claim" to Taiwan (and the islands as an integral part of Taiwan, along with Quemou, Matsu, Kinman, Penghu, etc), they just shouldn't try to use the pretense of a disagreement with Japan to have either themselves or Japan disassemble Taiwan. Taiwan and China tolerate each other these days, so there's not much of an immediate Chinese military threat to Taiwan (which would surely draw in the US too).
In a way, resolution of this mess can be pretty simple. Japan and China could both concede to warehouse the islands for the moment by ceding control to Taiwan without acknowledging Taiwan's claim. Since both china and Japan maintain friendly ties with Taiwan, other than the dispute over the island, Taiwan can then, possibly over decades if needbe, facilitate further talks.
California first says-"In a way, resolution of this mess can be pretty simple. Japan and China could both concede to warehouse the islands for the moment by ceding control to Taiwan without acknowledging Taiwan's claim. Since both china and Japan maintain friendly ties with Taiwan, other than the dispute over the island, Taiwan can then, possibly over decades if needbe, facilitate further talks."
Actually,that is an excellent idea.There is no doubt that the islands were known to be part of Taiwan before the Japanese seized them in the Sino-Japanese war in 1895.And as China rightfully considers Taiwan as a breakaway province of China's (hence the fact that Japan took those islands and Taiwan away from CHINA in the 1895 war.Called the Sino-Japanese war,not Taiwan-Japanese war,lol).Then they could still be considered as Chinese.Just kept as part of China's breakaway province until Taiwan re-unites with the Chinese motherland.As with Hong kong and Macao,China has a long memory and is willing to wait.And also is willing to come up with creative solutions to bring about the reunion.
This is only because of the US 'pivot towards Asia' it was peaceful for the last twenty years. Thank you US for interfering once again. And F888 you.....
No.. nothing to do with the pivot. This is all about the rapidly deteriorating political mess in Japan (which has begotten militant nationalism) and the perpetual political mess that is China (which has never renounced militant nationalism)... and the fact that the government's about to collapse in the first country and that its election-year (or, rather, selection-year) in the second.
Not every thing is our fault, and not every dispute is our fight. Left to their own devices, neither Japan nor China wants a fight. Of course, neither of them is right either, so this is all just sour grapes in the end. Hopefully the economy doesn't get hurt too badly.
China and Japan are experiencing the roots of political and national madness. To go to war over some uninhabited islands over the destruction of two countries reveals the mind of fools.
i hate china
Yeah, we couldn't guess that from your long chains of anti-Chinese remarks...
@Trantham, hatred will eat you from inside out, you pathetic low life!