Chinese media: 'Many Chinese people dislike Hillary'

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Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Chinese Vice-Premier Wang Qishan attend the joint statment reading for the closing of the U.S.-China Strategic and Economic Dialogue in Beijing on May 4.

BEIJING – It may be Hillary Clinton’s final trip to China in her current role as Secretary of State, but China’s state media has not held back in saying what they really feel about the former first lady and, by extension, the United States.

In an editorial entitled, “Secretary Clinton: the person who deeply reinforces US-China mutual suspicion,” in Tuesday's edition of noted nationalist newspaper, Global Times, the paper took Clinton to task for her “meddling” in the South China Seas and Diaoyu/Senakku disputes.


“Many Chinese people do not like Hillary Clinton,” the editorial stated. "She makes the Chinese public dislike and be wary of the United States, which does not necessarily serve U.S. foreign policy interests.”

Other Chinese state media avoided blaming Clinton for the current heightened tensions in the Asia-Pacific region, but nevertheless took issue with America’s recent “pivot” in the region.

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Clinton has pledged to take a strong message to Beijing on the need to calm regional tensions over maritime disputes that have raised broader fears of military friction between the two major Pacific powers.

The last time Clinton visited Beijing, plans to highlight improving U.S.-China ties were derailed by a blind Chinese dissident whose dramatic flight to the U.S. embassy exposed the deeply uneasy relationship between Beijing and Washington.

This time, the irritants are disputes over tiny islets and craggy outcrops in oil- and gas-rich areas of the South and East China Seas that have set China against U.S. regional allies.

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As Clinton prepares to travel back to Beijing on Tuesday, U.S. officials say the message is once again one of cooperation and partnership -- and an important chance to compare notes during a tricky year of political transition.

But the unease remains, sharpened by disputes in the South and East China Seas that have rattled nerves across the region and led to testy exchanges with Washington just as the Obama administration "pivots" to the Asia-Pacific region following years of military engagement in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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Both governments, too, are preoccupied with politics at home, with the Obama administration fighting for re-election in November and China's ruling Communist Party preparing for a once-in-a-decade leadership change. 

Mistrust
The general sense of mistrust over American involvement in these issues which China adamantly claims are regional territorial disputes was apparent in many users, perhaps most succinctly put by one user who wrote, “The Diaoyu Islands belong to Asian people, we don’t need American help on this issue.”

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That position has dominated state media coverage of Clinton's visit to the region this week, manifesting itself in a consensus that the United States was behind much of the recent emboldened confrontations between other Asian powers – most notably the Philippines and Japan -- and China.

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In yesterday’s edition of China Business News, an article noted that “The U.S. is the origin of all issues,” in the region and that Clinton’s visit to the region “delivers a message that Japan and the Philippines are just two sidekicks on the stage while the U.S. is the “boss” at the backstage.”

Whether state media's depiction of the U.S. Secretary of State accurately reflected the opinions of China's population was unclear, however.

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On China’s popular twitter-like service, Weibo, reaction to the editorial was mixed.

“The Global Times shouldn’t use their attitude towards Hilary to represent our collective opinion,” wrote one irate user. “I think she’s good, please don’t make fools of us.”

“History will prove that she [Clinton] is the real peacemaker," another user wrote. 

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Comment author avatarWilson FarisRestored

This is not news....................just the belief anywhere this witch shows up.

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#1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:52 AM EDT

Course the Chinese don't like Hillary, she isn't onboard with the "export more jobs to China" policy.

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#1.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:13 AM EDT
Comment author avatarMax^108Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Hillary is more popular in China than in US.

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#1.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:14 AM EDT
Comment author avatarJS in SDExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

There are plenty of people at home here in the US who do not like Clinton's manner either. As for the politics of the situation, she is just the mouthpiece for the Obama administration's flailing foreign policy. Obama is making a huge mistake taking such a high profile role in these regional disputes. Far more could be accomplished to resolve these issues peacefully if Obama would stop running his mouth in public to try and make himself look strong and worked things quietly behind the scenes. The repeated public statements from the administration on these disputes only serves the get China's back up and make it look like the US is trying to bully China. This is definitely not an approach that works well with the Chinese government. Taking a quieter, back room approach to negotiating a solution would be far more successful and allow the Chinese government to give a little while still saving face by making it appear to be their magnanimous decision, not a caving in to the US bullying. This is just the latest example of Obama administration's ineptness when it comes to foreign policy.

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#1.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:16 AM EDT

ancient Chinese proverb....if it walks like a duck...it is a duck

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#1.5 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:39 AM EDT
Comment author avatarItsAboutTime-3704531Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Billy N. Igger

Really? So you ignore the fact that Hillary was qualified for this position? Typical of the righties. Obama has made the hard decisions that need to be made. If you don't think so, why don't you share with us your vision of what he should do as President? I am sure you are more than qualified to lead one of the most powerful nations on earth into the best prosperity it has ever known.

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#1.6 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:46 AM EDT
Comment author avatarPurnell Meagre Jr.Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

JSin SD - THE REpublicans make a big mistake not recognizing Obama's deft handling of international relations. THanks largely to his restrained management of the situations we are not currrently involved in a major shoooting war in the MIdddle East. Iran is stilll without Nuclear weapons. THe Arab Sprint came and went without a major screwup on the part of the U.S.. COnrast this to the train wreck that passssed for foreign policy during Bush/CHeney/

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#1.7 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:46 AM EDT
Comment author avatarDan-312359Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

She has the job that Obama promsied her if she dropped out and gave Obama his run for the 1st term for the white house!!!

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#1.8 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:47 AM EDT

Look at all the Republican "patriots" siding with communists to attack an American government official... party first is the motto of the GOP.

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#1.9 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:48 AM EDT

Why don't you share with us some of the hard decisions that Obama has made.

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#1.10 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:49 AM EDT
Comment author avatarbdjb for common senseExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

"Many Chinese... dislike Clinton" - Many Americans dislike Clinton! This entire administration is very divisive, both state side and abroad. We certainly need change!

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#1.11 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:49 AM EDT

What? Do you people just pull something out of where-the-sun-never-shines and claim it's the truth? I'm looking at the following poll and it says Hillary "Maintains Near Record High Favorability".
http://www.gallup.com/poll/154742/hillary-clinton-maintains-near-record-high-favorability.aspx
And, as for the view of the world towards the United States, here you go....
http://www.pewglobal.org/database/?indicator=1

On the President's foreign policy record: "But whatever the disappointment in Obama, the public in every country but embittered Pakistan is far more enthusiastic about Obama's global leadership than about George W. Bush's four years ago. In fact, world confidence in Obama averages an astounding 32 percentage points above Bush's rating."
http://www.nj.com/times-opinion/index.ssf/2012/06/opinion_president_obamas_forei.html

Gads, people, it is crazy all the lies that get posted even when they are total bull-crap - how do you think THAT looks to the rest of the world? It looks like the American public is to lazy to do a little research and learn the truth about something. Geez!!

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#1.12 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:52 AM EDT

If the Chinese dislike Clinton, she must be doing something right. If they liked her we would be far worse off. I bet they still like Dubya.

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#1.13 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:56 AM EDT

We know the Chinese REALLY like Romney's outsourcing business-sense and are chomping at the bit for him to become President, since it worked so well with them under Bush Jr.

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#1.14 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:03 AM EDT
Comment author avatarOne man-3239417Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Hillary Clinton is the Senator from Mumbai, in India she is a hero. No wonder she is not liked in China.

She talkes from both sides of her mouth. Just like her husban who told ship makers in the Northeast that the jobs would not come back and that the workers needed to get into High tech jobs. Oh wait the High tech jobs went to India and China LOL

Way to go Hillary Clinton and Obama

To be fair The Romney and Ryan offer nothing to solve the problem. Mr Ryan is going to call China a bad name currency manipulator. Oh wow OMG no not the CM word.

This is what we have to pick from here in the US????

Were in trouble people.

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#1.15 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:05 AM EDT

Oh this is one of those silly childish things the Chinese pull out of the state run media whenever someone tells them to do something they don't want to do.

This is the equivalent of the youngest child in the family screaming, "I hate you" when you tell them they can't have ice cream for dinner.

Who cares if the Chinese people don't like Hilary Clinton. I don't think you'll find too may Americans that are very fond of China right now, either.

And boo to MSNBC for bothering to print this kind of childish nonsense. If they keep doing it, I'm going to hold my breath until I turn blue.

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#1.16 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:06 AM EDT

@ js;

Obama is making a huge mistake taking such a high profile role in these regional disputes. Far more could be accomplished to resolve these issues peacefully if Obama would stop running his mouth in public to try and make himself look strong and worked things quietly behind the scenes.@

This issue goes back decades. How has Obama taken a "high profile role"? The only reason you are thinking about these islands right now is because Clinton is in China. There have been skirmishes over these islands in the past few years(the story runs deep over ownership, and rights to the seas around them). Not involving us. Your suggestion for him to help "behind the scenes" would cause more trouble not less sir. We share our opinion, so what.

Obama administration's flailing foreign policy.

Not hardly, he has been excellent on the war on terror. He is no pushover, and takes action more than run his mouth. Obama has approved many "covert" missions, and has made many "secret" moves, some that are not secret anymore, that has made us more safe than we were 4 yrs ago, hands down. He has the respect of all world leaders because is more action than talk,period.

I do not want my SOS to cozy up to commies, maybe you do. Why do you think China has made huge missiles, dubbed "aircraft killers" because they love and trust us?, I think not.lol

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#1.17 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:08 AM EDT

JSinSD,

that has to be one of the most uninformed comments I've read. It is readily apparent that it is a partisan based without any factual support at all but is rather just another rant filled personal speculation with embellishment of your personal politics...............................as usual

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#1.18 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:24 AM EDT

Gee, sounds like the RIGHT is worried about that Next 8 years after Obama's Next four. Oh that's right the RIGHT KISS THAT CHINESE AZZ a lot better. LOL

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#1.19 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:26 AM EDT

This story is PURE PR -- designed to show that Hilary is tough on the Chinese. Politically, the socialist Obama regime is not all that far away from China.

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#1.20 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:29 AM EDT

Betcha this article made it tough on the right wing posters... which do they support, Hillary (and therefor Obama) or Communist China? Tough choice given the GOP platform for the last 4 years. It appears that China gets the thumbs up, 'cause "if your against Obama, you can't be all bad".

But guess what, China. If you don't like Hillary, your gonna LOVE Romney!... He's not likable even in his own country!

Okay, so here's my question... where would Romney stand on China? It seems that he would be severely conflicted... ideology or business? Do you slam the one that buys our debt or put an armada between the islands and the mainland?

Whatchya gonna do Mitt?

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#1.21 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:29 AM EDT

I could not agree more!!

China has made huge missiles, dubbed "aircraft killers" because they love and trust us?

Apple a US Company my A$$ when they have 750,000 workers in China sweating the money for good old Apple. I wonder how much money has been used by China received by big Apple profits to build the Aircraft Killers??

I wonder how much Apple stock will be worth if the US and China go at it and how many US solders will pay the price for foolish profits.

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#1.22 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:29 AM EDT

"If you don't think so, why don't you share with us your vision of what he should do as President."

Quit. There's a start.

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#1.23 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:33 AM EDT

Rick-868962

Politically, the socialist Obama regime is not all that far away from China.

If you measure Obama based on his distance from far right extremes that the GOP finds itself today, you could be right! What a joke.

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#1.25 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:36 AM EDT

"Many Chinese... dislike Clinton" - Many Americans dislike Clinton! This entire administration is very divisive

I hate to break it to you (I don't), but Clinton isn't as widely hated as you'd love her to be. Gallup's polling shows she's easily the most popular and least divisive politician in the U.S., with approval ratings upward of 65%. That's twenty percentage points above ANY Republican, in office or otherwise.

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#1.26 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:45 AM EDT
Comment author avatarMARK S-971793Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

of course the chinese don't like her "a bitch is a bitch" and Hillary is a big bitch !!! she is as evil as the bitch Nancy Pelosi

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#1.27 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:52 AM EDT

@bozospeak;

The only government official worse than this witch is the POS Odumbo. Nether had the experience for their jobs and their on-the-job training has been disastrous for America.

Umm bozo, all Presidents, and SOSs are trained on the job. Everyone Rep,or Dem, comes in with gaffes and misstatements, especially on foreign policy. Everyone coming into these offices has to go through "on the job training".

How has Obama been distastrous on anything involving foreign affairs? No president is perfect, nor will there ever be one.Let me tell you this, your post is offensive,like Obama or not I do not appreciate you calling our POTUS what you have.

Obama has plans to bolster the Pacific defenses, so China does not move in on the micro islands of the Pacific. His message to them is that we will remain strong and stronger in the Pacific, so if that is how he wants to "pose" it that is o.k by me, and many peaceful Island people.

That "poser" is massing thousands of troops off Yemen to deter Iran from from releasing a huge strike against us or Israel. That "poser" has sold many newer deeper penetrating bunker busters to Israel. You are funny calling my POTUS a poser.lol

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#1.28 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:55 AM EDT

So much hot air on miniscule details. There is absolutely no point in evaluating government individuals. Hell, congress grilled the bankers for days and came up empty. That was a lesson on who has the power.

The big horror picture is that out of 300 million people all we could muster is a glib pulpit preacher making us all sway and clap then turning his back and on us to focus on glad-handing to become one of the guys, hiring wall street con-artists, wasting 2 years placating Hillary about her health programme failure. And no decent democrat has stepped forward as an alternative.

And Romney is the best the republicans can offer? Holy cow, talk about the lesser of two evils. We all knew Cheney was pulling the strings, but someone is manipulating the entire nation and every aspect of our lives, money, oil, drugs, who knows, they are well hidden and we can never get to them.

300 mill! And there isn’t an honest heart to be found. That’s the big picture. We’re kidding ourselves if we think all this petty bickering is productive. Every community should dig deep and find representatives we can be proud of. They have to be here somewhere. 300 mill! If anything had to be fast and furious it would be this, and it would have to be a covert rebellion otherwise the 1%, if you like, would soon find a way to squash any attempt to put good governance over god-awful greed.

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#1.29 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:58 AM EDT

Time for your meds Mark.

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#1.30 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:59 AM EDT

Many Americans don't like Hillary either.

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#1.31 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 10:02 AM EDT

@ Coral Taxi.. exactly. The only people qualified to President of the United States are Carter, Bush, Clinton, Bush and Obama. Not a single other person in America has the experience or understand what this job entails. The GOP on the other hand think its such an easy job running this nation they can do it while on vacation in Texass for 950+ days over 8 years in office.

The GOP and this nation are broken. The GOP took decades to break and America over a century. We can't let the GOP run this nation into the ground anymore. The tax cuts the love so damn much are costing America at least $1 TRILLION in lost tax revenue each year. And to top it all off, tax cuts have NEVER created the jobs the GOP claim that they would. Instead the tax cuts have emboldened the rich and have made multi-millionaires out of just plain old millionaires. Made Billionaires out of super-millionaires. The GOP and its $250 MILLION man for President can never relate to me, a Gulf War era 100% disabled veteran. Mittens got a free-pass from fighting in Vietnam, as do many religious zealots do. Instead Mittens when to France to peddle his religious hatred. Mittens and the rich loving GOP will never care about the middle class or poor. Unless they fight their holy wars in the Middle-East backing up Israel.

The Chinese are the nation to fear. They have a 300-500 Million person Army that they could invade America with, if we suddenly threaten them, like Mittens & Paully Shore Ryan have, and Iran, Syria, etc.. War War War is all the GOP want. Plus the Chinese have nuclear weapons, yet we bitch and moan about Iran maybe getting 1.. LMAO.. GOP just don't get.

When will the GOP ever focus on OUR homeland for a change? I thin Hillary would crush Mittens if both were head to head for President. To take a line from the subservient Ann Romney "Women are coming our side" Yes to OUR side, the Independent and Democratic side.. NOT the GOPs.. Sorry Ann. Women don't like being told what to do , how to act, what they can and cannot do with their OWN bodies by men, unless they are religious subservient obedient women like yourselves. Most American women are able to think and act for themselves. Unlike your religious hoards. American women love choices and freedoms thats why they come to the LEFT side of American politics and will. They don't want to be controlled like the women of the GOP are!

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#1.32 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 10:11 AM EDT

Brit in Pitt...

There was one, who would've bucked the system of the establishment government. Unfortunately, not enough of us want true Liberty. He had the most "honest heart" of all, but it didn't happen... - RON PAUL.

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#1.33 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 10:12 AM EDT

I thought it was funny when one person said that Iran still does not have nuclear weapons and that through this administration the "Arab Spring" has not resulted in a large scale Middle Eastern war.

I guess the after effects of what is going on in Libya, Iran, and now Syria does not count? Syria will go up into a major conflict once Asad is out and you will see ethinic killings on a scale much like we witnessed in Iraq between the various Islamic religious sects. Saudi Arabia will support the Sunni while Iran is going to want to maintain coverage with it's direct connection to Hamas and Hezbullah and the various terrorist cells operating just across the Syrian/Israel border. Iran will support the Shi 'a and Shi ite sects. Syria has a huge supply of chemical and biological rocket and artillery shells. It has one of the largest ammunition dumps with several small points where these arms are kept. Syria is the number one holder of such rounds since Iraq was dismembered back in 2003. Of course the endless amounts of trucks leaving Iraqi arms depots heading to Syria must have been merely Saddam's DVD collections but that is another story.

Because when you build "peaceful" nuclear reactors you always request new anti-aircarft missile platforms and new tracking ground to air radar for such locations. I guess the Russians thought that if the Iranians buy a few reactors that they get some new anti-aircraft missiles thrown in as a added bonus. Must had been a sales at the local Russian arms dealers that day.

When Iran makes it's public annoucement that they now have medium and long range missile systems capable of carrying their new nuclear warheads, we will really see how the administration will play their hand. When Israeli fighter-bombers are armed and starting to roll down the tarmac there will be little time for the administration to "release" any information to divert their plan.

China is a super power. It is conducting active cyber attacks on US military, government, and business sites on a daily basis. What the Chinese can't steal, hack, or buy, they will just duplicate through reverse engineering or demand that any company seeking to do business with over a billion plus potential customer base must yield their own research and development. This is one reason that our own US aerospace, aircraft, communication, and missile firms open their doors to the chinese at a chance for possible profit. The Chinese will surpass the US not through direct conflict but through the backdoor by our own wallet and stupidity. China will maintain "friendly" status with the US so long as we keep buying their poorly made cheap goods.

The Chinese hate Hillary? Don't worry, there are many Americans who can't stand the Chinese.

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#1.34 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 10:29 AM EDT

If China "liked" Hillary, she wouldn't be looking out for American interests.

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#1.35 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 10:32 AM EDT

I've lost all Hope and Respect for this administration. God help us if they are put back in office. Romney 2012.

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#1.36 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 11:50 AM EDT

Looks like China has finally found common ground with America.

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#1.37 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 11:54 AM EDT

Did any of you read the article, your predetermined hate responses are really old.

It says the dispute is over oil rights...gee, big surprise.

China has watched for the last 11 years as the USA circles the globe stealing as much oil as it can find, and you wonder why China is suspect of us? China adopts our way of life, thus they need the same resources we need...so why are we still hooked on oil - no foresight.

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#1.38 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 12:08 PM EDT

What a laugh! If "many Chinese" dislike Hillary its because the government controlled media has been playing it that way. What it means, if it is true, is that the Chinese govt. doesn't like Hillary- which probably means she's doing a good job. What does the right wing want? Someone whom the Chinese govt. likes? What a bunch of hypocrites and liars the GOP are.

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#1.39 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 12:16 PM EDT

A communist country doesn't like Hilary. I'll bet they'll love Mitt. Communism for the rich - even wider gaps of income for the Chinese and the Americans. Mitt can shove his party yacht up his butt with his magical underwear.

    #1.40 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 2:30 PM EDT

    This article had "Pile On" written all over it. Who gives a sh!t what China thinks? Alot of it, is also because she is a woman. That goes for some in the US that dislike her too. She has been the "hardest working" member ofthis administration. While Congress and the Senate has gotten paid and taken our money while sitting around and gets nothing done, Hillary has worked for peanuts for the amont of work she does. Dems got it wrong in 2008. It should've been Hillary.

      #1.41 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 3:36 PM EDT

      'Many Chinese people dislike Hillary'

      So what? Many American people dislike her as well. Get over it.

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      #1.42 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:05 PM EDT

      Comment # 1 restored for clarity.

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      #1.43 - Thu Sep 6, 2012 3:56 PM EDT

      Gundeck, you took the words right out of my mouth!

        #1.44 - Thu Sep 6, 2012 10:25 PM EDT
        Reply

        Dumb journalist ... many Yanks dislike Hillary ... so what !!!

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        #2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:11 AM EDT
        Comment author avatarJanine-1645002Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        This is news? Many in this country don't like her either.

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        #2.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:07 AM EDT
        Comment author avatarschoolyardExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        Agreed, and Hillary is looking pretty rough lately!!!!

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        #2.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:37 AM EDT

        I know I sholdn't but I get a kick out of rmembering alll the "ANybody but Hilllary " hate a few years ago. DO we have anyone willling to step up and post anybody but HIlllary today?

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        #2.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:48 AM EDT
        Comment author avatarTonyinWyoExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        schoolyard

        Agreed, and Hillary is looking pretty rough lately!!!!

        Probably spending too much time snuggled up to DOHS boss Janet Nappy.

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        #2.4 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:01 AM EDT

        Hillary dislikes many Chinese. So what?

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        #2.5 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:44 AM EDT

        Global times editors are out of touch with reality, always good for brownnosing eating peanuts and toe inline with the ruling chinese goevernment clique to stay afloat. The hyperventilating editors once suggested that Chinese government should put sanctions on the Philipines for having joint military manuevers with USA near Manila. No where in China will be a free expresion newspaper allowed to express their opinion in China. Just like China does , Global times should not be allowed in other countries since it's a dog belonging to the owner/chinese government. A newspaper pretending to be a free outlet, does not report social uproar that is happening in China just rosy china news. Once a dog always a dog

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        #2.6 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 10:14 AM EDT

        Give the Chinese hell Hillory.

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        #2.7 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 10:45 AM EDT
        Comment author avatarOne man-3239417Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        Hillary Clinton is the Senator from Mumbai, in India she is a hero. No wonder she is not liked in China.

        She talkes from both sides of her mouth. Just like her husban who told ship makers in the Northeast that the jobs would not come back and that the workers needed to get into High tech jobs. Oh wait the High tech jobs went to India and China LOL

        Way to go Hillary Clinton and Obama

        To be fair The Romney and Ryan offer nothing to solve the problem. Mr Ryan is going to call China a bad name currency manipulator. Oh wow OMG no not the CM word.

        This is what we have to pick from here in the US????

        Were in trouble people.

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        #2.8 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 10:45 AM EDT

        apparently china has never seem TEAM AMERICA.

        F' YEAH - GO AMERICA!

        besides, anyone who believes that Hillary - and not our Military, is setting foreign policy is a loony toon.

        The Industrial Military Complex and The Ultra Rich of America are the ones who decide which beehivess to poke sticks into, all based on what we can extract out of it once we crack those babies wide open.

        Hillary Clinton, just like Condie Rice, and Powell and all others before them are simply mouth pieces...so if you dont like the image Hillary is projecting, as the military why they are making us look like punks or pricks...

        and to do that, you have to ask the rich elite and the congress and senators who do their political bidding on their behalf.

        best of luck, i expect you'll get nothing but crickets from that crowd.

        • 9 votes
        #2.9 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 10:46 AM EDT

        Wow, Hillary doesn't look like a sweet naive young chick that can be pushed around. She's hard core American, who also graduated in the top of her class. She doesn't bend to the middle east and she refused to cover her head when visiting Iran. Hmmm she doesn't shy away from a verbal fight and wasn't too far off base about Obama. I am starting to like her more and more.

        I wasn't a huge fan of her in the 90's I felt she was dishonest and immature. The last ten years, Hillary has come into her own and she has grown up. If you read the real transcripts of her visits to foreign nations over the last four years she has really kicked butt. I like the grown up Hillary. AND....The fact that the Chinese don't like her makes me actually like her more.

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        #2.10 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 10:53 AM EDT
        Wilbert123Deleted

        Jessica,
        Not to say I don't agree with some of your message, but the military has little to do with Foreign Policy, other than enforcing it. Since the enforcement is largely posturing, when it comes to relations with Russia and China, you have to look at the reality of WHO is actually the Foreign Policy architects.
        The real truth is; big business. Much of the two faced dealings and misdirection is coming from Washington sending messages, publicly, then doing the opposite behind America's back at the direction of compaign contributors. Whoever can contribute the most to Washington actually runs the show.

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        #2.12 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 11:02 AM EDT

        In reality, military contractors take a large part in forming US foreign policy.

        By the way, they are not a part of the actual military, they just take up about 90% of the Defense budget. While military members like myself are losing our jobs and benefits, they aren't losing anything.

        • 9 votes
        #2.13 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 11:12 AM EDT

        So far the right is showing it's colors. First, they have to comment on how Hilary looks. The right only considers women that look hot and don't have brains...Sarah, Anne. For the second point...the right is screaming for a tough stance on China...Hilary takes the tough stance and the right complains...and no so much on the facts but rather on her looks. The right wingnuts show their colors and think they are actually intellectuals but then isn't being smart something the GOP looks down on? Yup...

        • 9 votes
        #2.14 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 11:18 AM EDT

        Inconsideration that the Chinese still tap women's feet together, coerce sterilization of women, kill a baby if it is the 2nd child especially if it is a girl of course they will not like a Woman of Power and INTELLIGENCE!

        • 5 votes
        #2.15 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 11:44 AM EDT

        The Chinese act no better than a spoiled 5 year old brat that didn't get a lollipop.

        • 3 votes
        #2.16 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 12:09 PM EDT

        Fighting over OIL - been there, done that, we haven't learned a thing.

        • 1 vote
        #2.17 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 12:12 PM EDT

        We need to be tough with the Chinese and if they don't necessarily like our Secretary of State, then that's fine by me. We have every right and reason to be wary of China, and I am glad that our Sec of State projects that to some extent. I'd be worried more if they loved her. As one of the speakers at the RNC convention said (Christy maybe) "It's better to be respected than liked." It is NOT Hillary's job to run around the globe and be liked and admired by everyone. She gets it. That's good.

        BTW, I am a conservative republican and I believe that Hillary is one of the few good appointments that Obama has made.

        • 10 votes
        #2.18 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 12:14 PM EDT

        Hillary Clinton isn't the real issue here. It's a simple case of communist China implementing their policy of expansionism. This is common throughout history of a growing power flexing it's muscle. US policy in that region has been what it is since 1898. Japan tried to usurp US interests there during WWII. Now China is going to challenge us there. It will probably result in some type of military confrontation between us, but doubt it will escalate to nuclear. And so...history does keep repeating itself.

        • 4 votes
        #2.19 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 12:15 PM EDT

        @ Military Man:

        I am retired, did my tours in Iraq, wounded, and I serve with a number of contractors. I am at a loss at the idea that you are saying the Defense Department is over 90% contractors? What about DOD civilians? They make a huge number and they hold key positions as far as employment goes. You are saying that it is the contractor who is stealing your pay and benefits? How so? I sit with a contractor who does 10 hours a day of straight intelligence analysis, I can't get the soldiers to give more than 3 hours a day working at their job. Why? Well they have motor pool, funeral detail, head count at the DFAC, weekend duty, PT, 4 day holidays, 1 1/2 hour lunch, and they leave before the contractors do. So hold off on the idea that the contractor whose job can be dropped at the end of the fiscal year by the stroke of a pen and the DOD civilian who has the mass amount of benefits. If you are ticked off about the pay scale overseas then go blame the US State Department not the contracting firm because overseas civilian pay is different than military pay and the State Department and DOD have to agree on the wages that are being suggested for a specific contract.

        You think with those budget cuts you are losing anything as a member of active duty? No. You will still receive your pay, medical benefits, and support. We are already assessing that the DOD will lose at least 30-45% manpower over the next 3 years if these cuts go through. We are talking 200,000 (some estimates are looking at 2 million jobs with the aerospace firms and subcontractors) plus people will be automatically gone with another 100,000+ let go if the deeper cuts will go through. This idea that the military contractor is sitting at his desk doing nothing and getting paid a six digit income is bogus and misleading. Are there problems within the contractor community? Yes. But there are dirt bags in every element of the job market and I dealt with some really bad apples as a platoon sergeant and dealt with some a-holes who were DOD civilians whose only mission was to punch 8 hours and collect a check. There are countless missions being conducted by contractors who support the warfighters on the ground, everyday in everyway. So hold off on this idea that the contractor is stealing your job. The jobs are running out and if you are looking for work you better know someone on the inside for a government position because those are going to become a hot ticket.

        • 3 votes
        #2.20 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 12:23 PM EDT

        Who the devil cares what the Chinese think? I've noted some fairly unkind remarks that she's looking "rough," or that people in the USofA don't like her either! How would anyone "look" traveling to the four corners of the earth and being in one's 60's?

        Balderdash (keeping this clean!), really to heck with them and 'what they think.' Who wrote the stupid report and why would it be newsworthy? It must be a slow newsday for NBC! ; -)

        • 5 votes
        #2.21 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 12:49 PM EDT

        Whats wrong with people at lkeast defend your own... Where is your pride in your country and the people in it? As far as the chinesse many people don't like them either!!

          #2.22 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 12:50 PM EDT

          How controlled is China's media propaganda machine compared to any other country that isn't or wasn't communist? Would they allow outside media in to get the uncensored opinions of their citizens? They wouldn't even allow Google to have uncensored links let alone the media.

          • 1 vote
          #2.23 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 1:15 PM EDT

          A) China's government controls everything the media says. So, it's the government that doesn't like her.

          B) I don't like China's government at all!

          My conclusion is she must be doing something right.

          • 4 votes
          #2.24 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 1:17 PM EDT

          I'm not a Hillary fan either, and I am American. But I'm also willing to bet large that by "Chinese people" the media means the communist dictators that she will not give in to. So, uh, in this case, You go girl!

          • 4 votes
          #2.25 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 1:42 PM EDT

          I like the hell outta Hillary. I don't like the Chinese government worth a gwaddamn. It would do well to remember the old adage; "better to be pissed off than pissed on". You go Hillary!

          • 3 votes
          #2.26 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 1:45 PM EDT

          LOL, the obama worshippers have always touted how well obamas foreign policy is well received abroad. Looks like the chinese government thinks otherwise.

          We already know from last year that many in the eurozone told obama and company to fix our own economy before offerring up advice on how to fix the eurozones.

          Seems that obamas and little hilaries policies are faring any better than bush2's. I wonder if obama will blame bush2 for obamas foreign policy.

          • 1 vote
          #2.27 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 1:46 PM EDT

          Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren for the 2016 presidential ticket.

          Boot all the GOP bums out!!!!!!!!!!

          • 5 votes
          #2.28 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 1:54 PM EDT

          Maybe if she didn't dress like she does it would improve her relations with China. Hell except for the bleached hair she looks like Chairman Mao and I don't think most Chinese think much of him.

          • 1 vote
          #2.29 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 1:56 PM EDT

          Hillary 2016! Let's give the Hillary haters 8 years of sheer anguish.

          • 4 votes
          #2.30 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 2:13 PM EDT

          Must be a rather slow day on NBC/NDC.

          Might as well comment on this lackluster article:

          Yep, many "Yanks" do not like "Modern Day (self professed) Progressive" Hillary Clinton either.

          How many folks like Hillary's Chief of Staff (besides Egypt, Syria, Yemen, Libya, Pakistan) ?????

            #2.31 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 2:13 PM EDT

            Military man is right. Without construction contracting there would be no money in it.

            • 1 vote
            #2.32 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 2:26 PM EDT

            Chinese media: 'Many Chinese people dislike Hillary

            They would dislike her no matter what, she's a strong woman, and "she walks in front" (anyone who has ever walked with a chinese family will know what I'm talking about ... women and daughters behind husbands and sons).

            • 1 vote
            #2.33 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 2:34 PM EDT

            Wow a Lot Of Chinese People Don't Like Hillary.....Well Welcome To The Club......Because there are.... A LOT OF AMERICANS....Who Don't Like Hillary EITHER!

            This is what we get for allowing Clueless Amateurs WITHOUT ANY GOVERNMENT EXPERIENCE To Become the Secretary Of State as a "Pay Off" for Hillary's Support Of The Obomination!

            Speaking Of AMATEURS.....Bumbling Barry has Messed Up More Of American Domestic & Foreign Relations That Can Be Listed But Here Allow Me To Try.....

            The Bailout of Wall Street, Exonerating Goldman Sachs, Secret Support of Al-Qaeda in Egypt Syria & Libya, Indefinite Detention & Assassination of American Citizens, New Not Wars in Egypt Syria, Libya, Pakistan, Yemen, Sudan, Columbia, Mexico and now Guatemala and soon to be in Iran & America. Military Drones Spying on Americans, bin NOBODY, TSA roaming Our Highways, Bus Stations, Malls and Convention Centers, DHS buying Billions of Rounds of Jacketed Hollow Point Bullets, Foriegn Paramilitary Special Forces Training with American Military in America Against American Protesters etc etc etc......The list goes on & on!

            We can not and will not make ANY exceptions to these Same Party Different Wing Politicians for they have proven over and over they all work for WALL STREET and NOT FOR OUR CHILDREN'S FUTURE!

            America..... Make a REAL Choice For Once....Refuse To Re-Elect ANYONE....One Term & Out They Go Until Once Again ALL Incumbents Have PROVEN They Work For We The People!

            NO EXCEPTIONS........

            • 1 vote
            #2.34 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 3:12 PM EDT

            A lot of Americans don't like enslaved labor, knowingly dangerous products, and commie dictators. So what?

            • 2 votes
            #2.35 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 3:19 PM EDT

            Actually, what I have discovered, is that what ever the yellow horde sons-a-bitches LIKE........I immediately, DISLIKE. And whatever the little Commies dislike, I like........It doesn't matter "who" or "what" it is. CHINA is the enemy to free societies and the Chinese people like their little "ant nest" society run by their Communist handlers. They don't know anything else. That's why their government controls their internet access; their press and electronic media; their family size by butchering their unborn and find it very easy to trade with friends like Iran and North Korea....I really don't care if they like Hilary or not. It's about THEM, not Hilary.

              #2.36 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 3:27 PM EDT

              MUW, "no government experience"? Well I guess if you don't count being first lady for 8 years(some of them have a great amount of government experience like Mrs. Wilson and Mrs. Roosevelt). All most all of them act as some kind of advisor and confidant to their husbands. I guess you have to also discount her experience as a US senator for 8 years. I guess you can also discount her experience as a party leader and candidate for the presidency too. Don't forget she was twice listed as one of the 100 most influential lawyers in America. Not important in your opinion either. In 1969, she graduated with a Bachelor of Arts, with departmental honors in political science from Wellesley College. She received a Juris Doctor degree from Yale in 1973. She became one of only two female faculty members in the School of Law at the University of Arkansas, Fayetteville. You probably prefer Anne Romney who has never held a job for pay in her life but has a BA in French and homemaking skills if you don't count all the maids and household help.

              • 2 votes
              #2.37 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 3:35 PM EDT

              Janine-1645002

              This is news? Many in this country don't like her either.

              Especially if you're a Neo-Conservative. She makes Condi Rice appear as inept as she really was.

              • 2 votes
              #2.38 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 3:54 PM EDT

              Who Listens to the DEVIL? Why? EVERYONE KNOWS.....THEY LIE....First Lady? FIRST LADY?

              Hahahahahaha!

              Wow talk about Posting Disinformation & Propaganda....Hillary is QUALIFIED TO BE FIRST LADY and NOTHING ELSE! She wasn't even a GOOD LAWYER.....Anyone else Remember White Water?

              Psst Ann Romney wasn't Paid Off For Her Support by being Given a CRITICAL JOB such as Secretary Of State That HILLARY WAS NOT QUALIFIED AND STILL NOT QUALIFIED FOR by Bumbling Barry!

              Oh but she's such a "strong woman".........Hahahahahaha!

                #2.39 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 3:59 PM EDT

                MUW

                Wow a Lot Of Chinese People Don't Like Hillary.....Well Welcome To The Club......Because there are.... A LOT OF AMERICANS....Who Don't Like Hillary EITHER!

                Especially Neo-conservatives who now cozy up to communists so long as they oppose Obama and his administration.

                This is what we get for allowing Clueless Amateurs WITHOUT ANY GOVERNMENT EXPERIENCE To Become the Secretary Of State as a "Pay Off" for Hillary's Support Of The Obomination!

                And Condi Rice was a pro? The only thing she proved herself effective as was Bush's "work wife" and head cheerleader...a complete tool.

                Speaking Of AMATEURS.....Bumbling Barry has Messed Up More Of American Domestic & Foreign Relations That Can Be Listed But Here Allow Me To Try.....

                The Bailout of Wall Street,

                Thanks for bringing up the Wall Street Bailout. March 21, 2012 Mitt Romney credited GW Bush and Paulson with the Wall Street bailout.

                Exonerating Goldman Sachs,

                Goldman Sachs supports Mitt Romney. Mitt Romney invests in Hedge Funds through Goldman Sachs and Goldman Sachs contributed $676,080 to Romney's campaign.

                Secret Support of Al-Qaeda in Egypt Syria & Libya,

                If it's secret, how do you know about it? If you can't or won't prove that accusation...then it must be a right-wing lie.

                I'm not even going to address the rest of your ramble. Pure right-wing, militia type, black helicopter, UN take-over paranoid crap.

                • 1 vote
                #2.40 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:15 PM EDT

                MUW

                Psst Ann Romney wasn't Paid Off For Her Support by being Given a CRITICAL JOB such as Secretary Of State That HILLARY WAS NOT QUALIFIED AND STILL NOT QUALIFIED FOR by Bumbling Barry!

                Oh but she's such a "strong woman".........Hahahahahaha!

                Wow, you really are crazy. Ann Romney hasn't been paid off for anything but being a stay-at-home rich mother of 5 rich sons. Who exactly are you to decide whether or not Hillary is qualified or not? None of us have ever heard of you and the more we read, the crazier you appear. At this point you've attained the level of "batsh!t crazy".

                • 1 vote
                #2.41 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:38 PM EDT

                Now we know what we share in common with the average Chinese person - we all despise the Clinton's and no one much likes the Obama either

                • 1 vote
                #2.42 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:40 PM EDT

                The reason you dispise the Clintons and Obama is because trhey are Democrats and you are a borned to hate Republican !! Clinton was the best President we ever had since FDR and Bush was absolutely the very worse of all time. Clinton lied about sex Bush lied about weapons of mass distruction that took us into two unfunded wars that killed thousands but according to The republicans lying about sex is much worse than about going to 2 wars. Clinton is a very good as Secretary Of State much better than Rice. She would make a great president.

                • 1 vote
                #2.43 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:14 PM EDT

                Join the club and hate the bagwoman. What has she done that she should have her position? All she ever has done is be Bill's Bagwoman!

                She is not even woman enough to hold her man. She lets him run all over the globe embarrassing her with his philandering and cheated like hell to get to be senator from New York so she could run for president. She couldn't find any too low not to do to get ahead politically.

                  #2.44 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 11:34 PM EDT

                  Well I give a rat's ass about them. We deport jobs to them and import their rejected citizens. They can all burn in he!! as far as I'm concerned. Ban imported hoodies from China. That would cut down on our crime rate by 50% I'm sure.

                  • 2 votes
                  #2.45 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 9:38 AM EDT

                  Clayton: your spending way to much time at the kool aid stand its fogging your mind and those rose tinted glasses are fogging your vision. The only success Clinton ever had in the White House was when Republicans controlled both the House and Senate. That means it was the Republicans that caused balanced budgets for two years not Clinton -only congress controls the purse strings of this Nation not the President - remember that class in High school you probably blew off called Civics??? Now for a little tutorial on the Bush Administration - the last 2 years Bush was in the White House Democrats controlled both the House and the Senate. What an amazing coincidence that the last 2 years of the Bush administration when the economy began to go south Democrats were in control of the economy.

                  I know what an inconvenience truth and history make to your own make believe world - moron

                  • 1 vote
                  #2.46 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 10:41 AM EDT

                  Devils son. You can have all the papers and diplomas but if you dont have common sense you really nothing.

                    #2.47 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 6:48 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    More of that 'effective' Obama foreign policy, eh?

                    • 23 votes
                    #3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:22 AM EDT

                    so theres hope of good chinese/american relations.we have common ground.

                    • 12 votes
                    #3.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:37 AM EDT
                    Comment author avatarItsAboutTime-3704531Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                    Better than the "Cowboy Diplomacy" centered around the ego of the epic failure of "BUSH". Course, if Vulture and Voucher get in the WH, it will be BUSH 3.

                    • 21 votes
                    #3.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:14 AM EDT
                    Comment author avatarbagdadjoe-1347766Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                    So your defense of Hillary is bashing Bush, Romney and Ryan? Typical, and what we have come to expect from an Obamite.

                    • 20 votes
                    #3.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:19 AM EDT

                    No bagdadjoe, what we have come to expect from the right is cheering anti-American news. So, the Chinese don't care for our American Secretary of State? It would be nice to hear rightwingnuts cheer for America rather than cheer for communist China.

                    • 20 votes
                    #3.4 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:39 AM EDT

                    bagdadjoe-1347766

                    I think Hillary has done a GREAT JOB as the secretary of state and done 10x better than her predecessor ever came close to doing. If you think Hillary hasn't done a good job, why don't you share with us exactly what she should do?? I know you righties and obama haters have all the answers.

                    P.S. read more comments on this entire article about how you righties bash clinton and offer... NO alternative solution. Pot or Kettle? or BOTH

                    • 17 votes
                    #3.5 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:50 AM EDT

                    More of that 'effective' Obama foreign policy, eh?

                    No doubt you have a similar grasp of Global Climate Change, World Economics and Evolution which though you did not manage to complete high school and can't balance your check book without help, you also pontificate upon in every public forum you can find.

                    • 11 votes
                    #3.6 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:10 AM EDT

                    I must be as weird as I thought. You all seem to think better of the Chinese for not liking Hillary.

                    Me, I think better of Hillary for having the Chinese dislike her!

                    • 8 votes
                    #3.7 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 10:39 AM EDT

                    Lynseypug - SPOT ON!

                    and if anyone believes that Hillary Clinton is the one causing "distrust" between the two nations, you are absolutely delusional and unaware of the current political climate.

                    There NEVER was any trust between the two nations, and our mutual spying on each other via the internet has always proved that.

                    • 5 votes
                    #3.8 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 11:02 AM EDT

                    They took Clinton to task for her "meddling" in the South China Seas and disputes. The subject is not really that new. Since the return of administration from United States to Japan in 1971, Japan's ownership of the Senkaku Islands (200 miles off China) has been disputed by China (PRC) and Taiwan. China claimed them back in the 1400's, Japan controlled the islands from approx 1895 until the end of WW2. The United States administered them from 1945 until the islands reverted to Japan under the Okinawa Reversion Treaty between the United States and Japan. In 2010, a Chinese fishing boat collided with a Japan Coast Guard boat near the islands ( youtube.com/watch?v=Kaun6yFRjFY ). The trawler was taken by the Japan Coast Guard, and the captain and crew were briefly held in custody in Japan.

                    • 3 votes
                    #3.9 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 11:10 AM EDT

                    Does anyone remember why Japan and China were at war prior to our involvement in the Pacific in WWII?

                    Go do a little homework, Japan had expanded to those same Islands, as well as invaded southern China. Japan was kicking their butts too. As allies of China at the time, the US froze oil exports to Japan, and we were surprised they attacked us.

                    Taiwan has been pushing for it's independence for over 100 years and China refuses to give it to them. If anyone is the Bull in the "China" shop it's the big Red themselves.

                    • 4 votes
                    #3.10 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 11:19 AM EDT

                    @Military Man, yes, Taiwan's struggle is a graphic example of how the subject is not really that new. If China is so passionate about the Senkaku Islands (200 miles off China), which it claimed in the 1800's, what about other claims of that period?

                    "...the power of the Heavenly Dynasty of the Ta Ching to whom the whole Earth is subject to order both China and the barbarian World and of the Heavenly Dynasty's means to keep in subjection its ten thousand States therefore advising the Queen by yielding respectful and true obedience..." - Imperial Commissioner Lin Zexu, (date 1863)

                    books.google.com/books?id=XEUMAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA89

                    Wonder if their claims would be tempered by much more than just what the world finds palatable?

                    • 1 vote
                    #3.11 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 1:01 PM EDT

                    ...the danger lies in misreading portions of history. If we go far enough back, both sides of any issue can find offense, find 'evidence' of aggression, find 'just cause.' The world is full of multigenerational battles. What we must always stand on is freedom. Nothing more or less. When battles come, with their high cost, that fact becomes clear.

                    • 1 vote
                    #3.12 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 2:05 PM EDT

                    Chinese are chauvanistic, don't like women in power, both ex's kissinger and rice say clinton is doing great at her job. chinese don't like anything about us. they only wanted our business. now we're no use to them since we're encouraging manufacturing in the US again.

                    • 2 votes
                    #3.13 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 2:08 PM EDT

                    @ Jessica

                    Ten times better than her predecessor? Really? Ms. Rice did a fine job as SOS given the circumstances during her tenure.

                    It is my personal opinion that Hillary is doing a good job as SOS. China is not our friend, they may be our mortgage holder but they are not our friend. If they don't like Hillary I consider that a good thing. I also believe she would have made a better president than President Obama.

                    Just one mans opinion

                    • 1 vote
                    #3.14 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 3:25 PM EDT

                    Liberal,YouExistInABubble

                    More of that 'effective' Obama foreign policy, eh?

                    As a matter of fact, yes it is! Supporting our allies throughout the Pacific Rim against Chinese Communist aggression is most certainly effective foreign policy. But what would a neo-con such as yourself know about foreign policy? The best your kind could come up with in the last administration was "you're either with us or against us". Which of course was backed up by nothing and meant nothing. It's one thing to stand up to Chinese aggression, it's a whole other thing to kiss their a$$es and continue off-shoring our economy to them (good business, right?)

                    • 1 vote
                    #3.15 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:19 PM EDT

                    @ Ol Doc:

                    That is a little harsh assessment on the previous administration's foreign policy methods. If you want to play the "remember when" piece during President Clinton's tenure, huge amounts of US intelligence, information, and restrictions were released to the Chinese through lax security enforcement. Several major DNC contributors were allowed to conduct the sales of sensitive items which allowed the Chinese military to upgrade key military programs to include their long and medium nuclear missile systems. We have always supported our Pacific rim allies. We have strong ties with New Zealand, Australia, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, just to name a few. Vietnam now seeks closer military ties with the United States, specifically US Naval prescences to counter growing Chinese naval traffic in and around contested areas. China is no friend of the United States but to say that this administration is now seeking "the right direction" to block Chinese advancement that is false. Bush jr didn't weaken the Pacific fleet. Nor did he reduce our influence in that region. You should hold off on the "kissing rear end" to suffice big business. It was under the Obama administration that Sec of State Clinton had to go with hat in hand to the Chinese to encourage them to invest in procuring US T-Bills to assist in the failed "infrastructure bill". Billions more (we owe you notes) added to the Chinese government. Both political parties failed the people but you can't blame it all directly on the GOP. Chinese goods and trade increased during the wonderful 90s during the Clinton years, obviously that was not all directly related to then former Bush sr faults? North Korea is still armed to the teeth and the only real country to keep them in check is China. China needs North Korea to maintain a buffer from South Korea and keep a very fanatical heavily armed and totally dependent North Korea. China could influence North Korea just by cutting key natural resources. North Korea has little to no real resources and their farmland is failing. The only people who are really eating is the North Korean military and key government circles. Not every person who does not totally support President Obama is clueless when it comes to geo-political and strategic planning.

                    • 2 votes
                    #3.16 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 6:14 AM EDT
                    Reply

                    Just like the Chinese government to make misstatements. What they really meant to say was, the Government officials don't like Clinton, therefore, by their command-and-control style, they tell their people not to like her. See how that works.

                    • 17 votes
                    Reply#4 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:41 AM EDT

                    I agree with your sentiment....

                    The Chinese government prefers a U.S. official whom they can manipulate like a puppet.

                    Besides, Wal-Mart & Co. need "good" U.S. / Chinese relations so they can keep the cheap Chinese goods pipeline flowing into this country.

                    China wholeheartedly thanks us for trading our manufacturing jobs for their goods.

                    So keep consuming, folks! The Chinese government is depending on you!

                    • 26 votes
                    #4.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:56 AM EDT

                    It's so nice to see all the Republicscum, and their ever present grade school mentality, show up.

                    • 16 votes
                    #4.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:17 AM EDT

                    What's your point Bob? I mean if you had one, what would it be? She's your gal after all......

                    • 8 votes
                    #4.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:21 AM EDT

                    The Chinese need somebody like Mit who will crawl and lick their boots. After all when he talks about creating jobs, he's talking jobs in China not our country. In America, Romney is a job killer. The Chinese people must love him.

                    • 20 votes
                    #4.4 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:27 AM EDT

                    Very very true.... I agreed with dman1115 and vento95. Chineese people do not have "Freedom of Speech" like we do. A good example, chineese do not have all accesses to our Internet, or view our comments here, or Youtube or Facebook, etc.... It all controls by the Chinese government, which kind of sad.

                    • 6 votes
                    #4.5 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:11 AM EDT

                    Mitt won't lick their boots. Mitt owns their boots.

                    China is so far up the a$$ of American Corporate interests you can hardly see the the soles of their feet. When will you guys figure out that people like the Bushies and their ilk, ARE China or what we think of as China. They manipulate public opinion and grind the country for every nickle it's worth.

                    You can't win. Big Business has it sown up. They own the government. I hope I live long enough to see the Romneys of this world be forced to prey on the Bushes of this world because the greedy 1% have no one left but each other to prey upon. It should make killer reality tee vee.

                    • 5 votes
                    #4.6 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:15 AM EDT

                    Don't think for one second that China wont spend money to help sway the American Presidential election. With Citizens United, the "Supreme" Court has essentially put the American political process up for sale. And since the republikans have blocked every effort to make donors identities public, you are not allowed to know where these contributions are coming from. And yes, this applies to both parties, all politics. Foreign corporations, super wealthy foreign individuals, even foreign countries like Iran or Israel can actually buy their way into the American electoral process. Money to buy politicians and sway elections coming from overseas. This must be one of the greatest dangers facing our country.

                    • 8 votes
                    #4.7 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 10:30 AM EDT

                    Didn't money donated through a known democrat PAC fund was found out to be directly linked to the Chinese government? I thought that a known Chinese supporter for President Clinton had been found to be filtering over 1 million dollars of campaign funds which had been donated through international channels to his re-election fund? Anyone remember that piece?

                    • 1 vote
                    #4.8 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 10:33 AM EDT

                    Mac - is Bill Clinton running for election? I wasnt aware that he was, or why the Chinese would be funding his campaign?

                    • 2 votes
                    #4.9 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 11:14 AM EDT

                    Jessica, Mac is refering to Bill's second term. There was a large amount of campaign money filtered in to the US from China in support of his re-election. The TeaPubs didn't make a big stink, since it would have bitten their collective re-election money-pots square in the back side. They didn't want to limit where their money was coming from (ie., Dubai, Egypt, and other oil producing nations)

                    • 1 vote
                    #4.10 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 11:27 AM EDT

                    No, Bill Clinton is not seeking re-election, I was stating that during the re-election bid for for Bill Clinton that money which was donated through a known DNC fund was found to have money traced back from the Chinese. I was answering the previous question as to whether the Chinese would place large sums of cash to sway a US Presidential election, the answer is yes they have and if it served their purpose I am sure there are methods that money can be filtered into various accounts.

                    • 1 vote
                    #4.11 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 11:28 AM EDT

                    Besides, Wal-Mart & Co. need "good" U.S. / Chinese relations so they can keep the cheap Chinese goods pipeline flowing into this country.

                    As do the Neo-Conservatives, Tea Party and what's left of the Republican party that hasn't bailed yet.

                    Republicans, why do you hate America? Or is it just Americans?

                    • 2 votes
                    #4.12 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:24 PM EDT

                    @ Military man:

                    Yes, PAC money being sent through various funds that had direct connection with the Chinese military was a pretty serious situation since we had several serious intelligence concerns with information being "released" to known Chinese agents, two major DNC contributors allowed to push sensitive information to the Chinese for access to their market. Huges Areospace industries gave several big contributions to President Clinton's re-election campaign and after re-election the company was granted authorization to update and provide on site tech support to the failing Chinese "Space" administration. But it was a joke since the company bypassed US State Department, Commerce, and Defense Department regulations on the release and sale of key pieces to our current missile technology which then basically upgraded the Chinese military's nuclear weapons and long range capabilities about 20 years ahead of where it was. A CIA report stated that the action and the sale of military grade "super-computers" allowed the Chinese to increase the effectiveness of China's nuke program 10 fold. So yeah, continue to pitch the idea that our connection with Saudi Arabia (which has been prior to WW2) is only GOP based. There have been several books that give a pretty good detail about those years during Clinton's tenure. One of DIA's top analyst on Chinese military modernization program wrote a whole book about the 90s and growth of the People's Army. So this is not all a GOP directed issue.

                    • 1 vote
                    #4.13 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 6:24 AM EDT

                    dman: They dislike Hillary because she is first and foremost a woman - god only knows one incredibly ugly one but never the less a woman, second she represents an administration that the Chinese believe is ineffective, no longer the worlds leading economic power - a role that has been exasperated by the insane economic policies of this administration, the steady dismantling of US military power by this administration and the obama administration undermining allies and friends in an effort to appease his radical Muslim buddies and relatives. An administration that has lost its mandate, a sordid history of corruption and failed policies. They consider the US little more than a paper tiger that they pull the strings to control. Hillary and obama are just there for comedy relief.

                    • 1 vote
                    #4.14 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 4:47 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    Does it have anything to do with the L's and R's in her name and the difficulty they have in pronouncing her name? LOL! Just sayin'....

                    • 10 votes
                    Reply#5 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:46 AM EDT

                    Darn it, you beat me to it! They can't say "Hillary Clinton," which is why they also don't like people who are lacksadaisical. But then again, by the same logic, they wouldn't like Republicans...or Liberals. :)

                    • 3 votes
                    #5.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:32 AM EDT
                    Reply

                    What is this over concern with "being liked" in this case her job is to represent the interests of the United States of America. China is a is a one party totalitarian government that has been engaged stealing from US government and firms and suppressing it's own people - IMHO being liked is not much of a concern!

                    • 18 votes
                    Reply#6 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:48 AM EDT

                    Obozo and cronies want this to be a one party totalitarian government, the Liberal Left Wing Socialist led by someone that could not run a shoe shine shop without government assistance. Hillery is number three on the list of imorals and anti Americans. Only because, # 1 is Obozo, # 2 her hubbie, but at least she beat out # 4, Jimmy shut your mouth Carter. Besides women in china are second class citizens, and Hilery has no class so she does not fit the mold.

                    • 2 votes
                    #6.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 10:26 AM EDT

                    Wow, my head is rattling with all the misspelling romal...you spelled Hillary's name incorrectly, and in a different way, twice.

                    By the way, if you are worried about a party wanting to be a

                    one party totalitarian government

                    you only need to look at the Tea Party/GOP. The phylosophy of "I'm the only way" is an absolutely counter-US thought process. Our founding fathers built this country with a cooperation for the common good phylosophy.

                    That is a large

                    • 3 votes
                    #6.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 11:35 AM EDT

                    Military Man.. No one cares about spelling besides you.

                      #6.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 11:53 AM EDT

                      Wow according to the brilliant conversationalist Obama created every problem the U.S has today. He's only been in office 4 yrs but he's the cause for all that is wrong!! No wonder you have to post on here no one can stand to listen to you when you mouth and try and speak.

                        #6.4 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 12:22 PM EDT

                        I care.

                        • 1 vote
                        #6.5 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 12:25 PM EDT

                        KenCare2012

                          #6.6 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 1:49 PM EDT

                          The word is philosophy not phylosophy....If you are going to correct others be sure you are not making the same mistake....

                          After reading the posts on this subject, uh I mean the posts posted on this subject but that are actually about the Republicans or the Democrats and the posters "belief" in what they think both parties platform is all about, my head is spinning with all the ignorance of those posting....I can only say many are either brainwashed, uneducated, have no idea how to "mine" the Internet for the truth, or simply so biased in their political views that in the next 10 years America will surely become Amerika.....

                            #6.7 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 3:57 PM EDT

                            romal

                            Obozo and cronies want this to be a one party totalitarian government, the Liberal Left Wing Socialist led by someone that could not run a shoe shine shop without government assistance.

                            This coming from the party that has instituted an unprecedented number of voter suppression laws in the last year. Now 33 states have republican sponsored voter suppression laws voted in by a republican majority and signed by republican governors.

                            Republicans, why do you hate America and democracy?

                              #6.8 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:29 PM EDT

                              Which party is doing every thing they can to make it a one party country ?? Its surely not the democrat s the tea baggers is our way or no way and do everything they can against two party voting. Never has this country been so divided and you can give a lot of the credit for that to the Teabaggers.

                                #6.9 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:35 PM EDT

                                My state has a lock on the electoral college votes. Therefore, I will be true to myself; a vote for Dr. Ron Paul is a vote to end the war. I know, wars exist to justify the military-industrial complex. I get the money thing. Every generation needs a conflict to authentically battle test a general. Freedom and democracy are the buzzwords employed to get "patriotic " Americans to go along with the agenda.

                                  #6.10 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:40 PM EDT
                                  Reply

                                  Allot of people hate him.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  Reply#7 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:49 AM EDT

                                  Me lovee Hillree. Hatee Commies

                                  • 10 votes
                                  Reply#8 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:50 AM EDT

                                  Looks like you are the only one that likes the Wicked Witch of the West. Keep drinking the Kool Aide.

                                  • 7 votes
                                  #8.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:58 AM EDT

                                  Hillary is her own person... she is strong and doesn't bend to any threats of "big money"... Brian, you seem to be the one "guzzleing the Kool-Aid"... get off it, it only leads to lonliness and despair... vote OBAMA / BIDEN 2012

                                  • 15 votes
                                  #8.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:14 AM EDT

                                  Reagan would be so proud of all the Republicans siding with communists to demonize American government officials...

                                  • 8 votes
                                  #8.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:46 AM EDT
                                  Wilbert123Deleted

                                  I do find it odd that so many on the Severely Conservative side are marching in lockstep with their Comrades and workforce providers.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #8.5 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 12:01 PM EDT

                                  I can't believe how many people here, really just hate the USA. I really don't know what has happened to this country, but it seems like the hatred is controlled by the far right wing media IE: Fox Broadcasting (Murdock owned) which owns 27 television stations in the USA and Clear Channel (owned by Bain Capital)which owns 866 radio stations and Premiere Radio Networks, a national radio network that
                                  serves nearly 5,800 radio station affiliates and has over 213 million weekly listeners. Programs include the Rush Limbaugh Show, Glenn Beck and the Sean Hannity Show.

                                  When 2 Corporation's own 90% of the media in the USA and both have the same agenda I can see how so many have become brainwashed!

                                  • 4 votes
                                  #8.6 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 12:05 PM EDT
                                  Reply

                                  I have news for you, many Americans can't stand her either...no news there.

                                  • 12 votes
                                  Reply#9 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:52 AM EDT

                                  Yep shes our secrete weapon. Countries just agree with us so they don't have to listen to her nag them anymore. Fingernails on a chalk board do not even compare! ... on second thought give her a chalk board to take with her.

                                    #9.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 11:58 AM EDT

                                    Anybody but Hillarity in 2016. Obama wanted Colin Powell as SoS but was blackmailed into giving the job to Clinton.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #9.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 12:09 PM EDT
                                    Reply

                                    Damn-I must be Chinese.

                                    • 7 votes
                                    Reply#10 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:53 AM EDT

                                    Actually, you, and those of you who say you hate Hillary are just ignorant. She is representing the US government, and to suggest you hate her is just stupid. You should hate yourselves for being divisive. By the way, I'm sure Hillary is not phased by your not liking her. Do remember, in the spectrum of things, you are an irrelevant loser.

                                    • 17 votes
                                    #10.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:04 AM EDT

                                    Tyrone, that she is representative of the US doesn't mean we can't dislike her. Obozo is in the White House, and I don't like him either.

                                    A position of power does not automatically command respect. Respect is EARNED.

                                    • 14 votes
                                    #10.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:12 AM EDT

                                    Janine, your comment reflects just how childish and immature you are. You may not admit it, but your problem is that you are too ignorant to support a democrat, because you are an idiot. What you should hat is your ignorance.

                                    • 11 votes
                                    #10.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:17 AM EDT

                                    Tyrone, what we really "hat" is ignorant people like you who can't even correctly spell a common word and who's best logical statement is calling someone an idiot. Idiot.

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #10.4 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:24 AM EDT

                                    Dumb a$$, I consider that a typo. If you were intelligent enough, you would as well.

                                    • 11 votes
                                    #10.5 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:30 AM EDT

                                    Typical Democratic response Tyrone. If you can't come up with an intelligent debate, sling insults on the other side.

                                    I'm surprised you didn't accuse me of being a racist.

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #10.6 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:07 AM EDT

                                    Tyronee, You really come off sounding like a "JURK", >>> just in case you didn't know it.

                                    You do not put much together other than snide comments w/no references for validating squatt.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #10.7 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:35 AM EDT

                                    Janine,

                                    Do you consider calling the POTUS childish names coming "up with an intelligent debate"? It does seem pretty typical of republicans to "sling insults on the otherside" and it is very childish to do exactly what you chastise others for.

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #10.8 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:41 AM EDT

                                    Mr. lepew, slinging insults is the Obozo campaign, he has a dizmal rocord and his little snod remarks about republicans wanteing to return to things like the Constitution, Law, a balance budget etc......... just shows what a immature little childish bullie does. Run down the other guy because you have nothing but power to perswade, not any real ideas or policies that are worth a penny.

                                      #10.9 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 10:38 AM EDT

                                      Janine, when you use a term other than "Obozo" to describe the President of the United States, maybe someone will take you seriously.

                                      Until then, maybe you should ask your mommy for permission to use the internet unsupervised.

                                      • 5 votes
                                      #10.10 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 10:56 AM EDT

                                      After all the names I see for Mitt Romney and George Bush, as well as others, you ridicule me for saying "Obozo"?

                                      Good Lord. It works both ways.

                                        #10.11 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 11:03 AM EDT

                                        Janine-1645002

                                        London's mayor had it right, "Mitt-the-Twit!"

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #10.12 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 12:12 PM EDT

                                        Janine,

                                        So your respmnse for bad behavior is..........the other guys do it too? It sounds like I'm talking with a child when we get resons ike that.

                                        Romal,

                                        Slinging peanuts at minorities is the Republican campaign then? "Just shows what an immature little childish bunch does" for attention.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #10.13 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 12:33 PM EDT
                                        Reply

                                        Bill doesn't like her neither, and that's why he started doing Monica. Hillary still looks mad over that sex in the oval office scandal.

                                        • 12 votes
                                        Reply#11 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:54 AM EDT

                                        Two negatives equal a postive, "doesn't and neither".

                                        • 6 votes
                                        #11.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:04 AM EDT

                                        SIESTASIS

                                        Two positives equal a negative, as in, "Yeah, right!"

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #11.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 12:14 PM EDT

                                        She's mad a Bill because he got to Monica first.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #11.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 12:39 PM EDT
                                        Reply

                                        News flash - Many American people dislike Hillary

                                        • 11 votes
                                        Reply#12 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:54 AM EDT

                                        Yes,and they call them Republican's.

                                        • 4 votes
                                        #12.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:48 AM EDT

                                        Yes, and they call them Democrats (no apostrophe) who nominated Obama.

                                          #12.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 12:44 PM EDT

                                          Good one Bill! I notice many people using an apostrophe when words are pluralized. How did this trend start?

                                            #12.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:52 PM EDT

                                            Mendy07 Yep many don't like her all are Republicans and theres many more of all parties that loves her I assure you than hates her. She would be a great president ! Why do the Republicans only yell balance the budget when there a democrat in office looks as if they want a balanced budget so when the Repubs are in office they can spend it. Look at How much percentage it went up underReagon it was almost 200% ,under Bush it was 86% under Obama 50%. Democrats balance the budget so we can give it to the wealthy

                                              #12.4 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:52 PM EDT
                                              Reply

                                              Many people in China dislike Hillary Clinton.... Is that any different than in the United States?

                                              • 9 votes
                                              Reply#13 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:55 AM EDT

                                              Should it matter what the Chinese like? We are fools for allowing our government and cooperate America to make a communist country wealthier than us. One day in the near future, it is very likely that they will become more powerful than us, thanks to our stupidity.

                                              • 8 votes
                                              Reply#14 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:56 AM EDT

                                              That one day has come and gone my friend, the Chinese have surpassed the US long ago.

                                              • 6 votes
                                              #14.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:24 AM EDT

                                              Well if we'd live within our means and stop borrowing $$$ from them then maybe it wouldn't matter if the Chinese don't like us -- right now we're "beholding" to them because they hold A LOT of our paper!

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #14.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 12:49 PM EDT

                                              jusbkoz,

                                              I'm calling BS on that, yes China has come a long way, but they would still have to stand on their ancestors shoulders to kiss our A$$. We still have the most enviable economy and life style in the world. Do we need to protect it with Tariffs, re-regulation, getting out of stupid (for us) trade treaties ... the SOONER the better. But it's a lie that we have been out paced.

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #14.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 1:47 PM EDT

                                              If Richard Nixon had not opened China to the world, where would they be now? I wonder....

                                                #14.4 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:52 PM EDT
                                                Reply

                                                You dont see a lot of women in the upper parts of the Chinese govt, wonder if they would have as big a problem with a male sec of state.

                                                • 8 votes
                                                Reply#15 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:58 AM EDT

                                                Why do we care if the Chinese like her or not - So let's appease the Chinese and send them Jerry Lewis as SOS. - Oops that's the French, never mind

                                                • 7 votes
                                                Reply#16 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:58 AM EDT

                                                Many Americans don't like Hillary much either, China, so get in line.

                                                Of course, even more Americans dislike cheap Chinese lead too.

                                                • 9 votes
                                                Reply#17 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:00 AM EDT

                                                Most of those who dislike her base their feelings on party biased views. That in itself is a display of ignorance.

                                                • 12 votes
                                                #17.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:08 AM EDT

                                                Tyrone, party be damned, she simply doesn't represent me or my views, as a woman or as an American.

                                                • 9 votes
                                                #17.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:15 AM EDT

                                                Maybe it's your views that's the problem. Stop being divisive, move from your extremely right position, and accept the fact that the country would prosper if we came to the center and worked collectively to solve her problems. Be an intelligent part of the solution, instead of being divisive and a part of the problem.

                                                • 9 votes
                                                #17.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:26 AM EDT

                                                Hey tyrone, doesn't your welfare check come in today?

                                                Better get out of your mommies basement and go spread a little of that wealth around!

                                                • 5 votes
                                                #17.4 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:07 AM EDT

                                                tyrone~ I see you are a true dem-wit Everyone else's opinion or point of view is unacceptable.

                                                screw you.

                                                • 5 votes
                                                #17.5 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:22 AM EDT

                                                Your the dimwit you can't seem to accepts Tyrone's. I know has an rite to an opinion but you Republican's. Your the one thats screwed in the head.

                                                • 2 votes
                                                #17.6 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:53 AM EDT

                                                looks like all the witless repubs are out in force...of course china loved bush and all the repub henchmen--they sent millions of jobs overseas...vote for romney and you can kiss the american manufacturing sector good bye forever...at least without work you jokers it will give you the time to educate yourselves so you can understand the world around you.

                                                • 2 votes
                                                #17.7 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 10:18 AM EDT

                                                Tyrone, so you believe that only people who believe as you do are intelligent?

                                                  #17.8 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 11:05 AM EDT

                                                  Janine, that's about the size of it -- very typical of the liberal left. If you are expressing any thought or opinion that opposes theirs they will argue, throw out misinformation, and when all else fails the race card. Oblah blah and his minions have done a lot to divide the country and unfortunately it has worked. This is the most divisive I've seen our country -- truly sad!

                                                    #17.9 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 12:52 PM EDT

                                                    Well Republicans keep sounding as if we are going bankrupt--Romney is great at handling bankruptcies so elect him so he can sell the USA to China and instead of getting a few million from a bankrupcy he can pocket a trillion and make him the richest in the world.

                                                    • 2 votes
                                                    #17.10 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 10:08 PM EDT
                                                    Reply

                                                    Hell many Americans dislike Hillary. She's so easy to dislike.

                                                    • 10 votes
                                                    Reply#18 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:05 AM EDT

                                                    It is also easy to like and admire her.

                                                    • 5 votes
                                                    #18.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:48 AM EDT

                                                    BTW3110

                                                    It is also easy to like and admire her.

                                                    Especially if you are blind and stupid!

                                                    • 9 votes
                                                    #18.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:08 AM EDT

                                                    TonyinWyo, I may be slightly myopic (I wear glasses, just in case you don't know the meaning of the word myopic.) but I am not stupid. It takes an intelligent person to understand the complexities of Global stewardship. Our Secretary of State is an intelligent woman with far more foresight then you will ever have as hindsight. But I wish you well anyway!!

                                                    • 3 votes
                                                    #18.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:58 AM EDT

                                                    You goverment owes me a liveing croud, you are blameing the wrong person for the cheap goods, it was Willie the cheap talking Clinton that started the fludd of cheap goods into the US, so Wal Mart would have a advantage over American Retailers. And who sat on the board of Wal Mart, Hillery dumm ass Clinton. But then demacraps allways blame republicans for there mistakes, and lack of common sense. After all one of the requirements to be a Demacrap is to blame others. And of course have the government support you because your to lazy or stupid to do it your self, so you trade your vote for dependency and vote for the Socialist Demacraps.

                                                      #18.4 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 10:53 AM EDT

                                                      While I've never liked Hillary or agreed with her views, I did admire her stand when her husband got caught with Monica. I don't understand why she didn't divorce the jerk, but that's her business.

                                                      • 1 vote
                                                      #18.5 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 11:08 AM EDT

                                                      I thought you righties hated commies, so logically, you would disagree with everything they think right?

                                                      • 2 votes
                                                      #18.6 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 11:38 AM EDT

                                                      Go back to sleep.

                                                        #18.7 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 12:51 PM EDT
                                                        Reply

                                                        A lot of men dislike any powerful woman, it makes them feel impotent as opposed to feeling important.

                                                        • 14 votes
                                                        Reply#19 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:06 AM EDT

                                                        Siesta-Sis, ... you should go back to your nap SiS, as you still sound sleepy.

                                                          #19.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:38 AM EDT
                                                          Reply

                                                          Most of you are have been no where and seen nothing, and sitting there a passing judment on what you know nothing of. This is good old fashion Communism in action and it won't be long before the threats and weapons are put on the table.

                                                          • 2 votes
                                                          Reply#20 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:09 AM EDT

                                                          You guys are leaving out part of the sentence: "Many Americans are afraid of a woman who makes them feel stupid, so they don't like Hillary."

                                                          • 12 votes
                                                          Reply#21 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:11 AM EDT

                                                          Then pray tell what qualifies her for this job other than riding the coattails of a draft dodging, pot smoking womanizing, perjurer?

                                                          • 1 vote
                                                          #21.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 12:22 PM EDT

                                                          The draft dodgers are in your party chucko..

                                                          • 1 vote
                                                          #21.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 12:58 PM EDT
                                                          Reply

                                                          Most of these comments confirms just how ignorant and childish some Americans are. If you insist on diving the nation because you can't get over your biased views, don't expect it to prosper. Stupid isn't cute people.

                                                          • 6 votes
                                                          Reply#22 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:12 AM EDT

                                                          You're so right Tyrone. Only the Republicscum Greed Over People party are ignorant and stupid. Just read their posts, or listen to their presidential challenger, and his habitual liar running mate, speak. That is all the proof you need as to how big a loser they are. They are now, and always have been, the biggest embarrassment to this country.

                                                          • 6 votes
                                                          #22.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:32 AM EDT

                                                          I can agree with you there Tyrone. We are very much divided as a people because of our differing views. Question is, who gives up their beliefs to the other to make us more connected? Do you think the the liberal crowd looking for freedoms for Illegals and gay marriage are going to give that all that up to appease the conservative? Or Vice Versa? Not likely.

                                                          It's our differences that make us individuals. My needs and beliefs are no more the same as yours as they would be to anyone on the street.

                                                          Our differences divide us, but they also make us what we are as a people. Free thinking. Able to be and believe as we wish.

                                                          Politics makes that difficult as for them it's an either/or situation. You either agree with them or you don't. There's no middle ground. That's what we need to change. Be able to find that middle ground, that compromise.

                                                          That's why I'm an independent. While my views are mostly conservative, I lean to the left on certain issues. But there's no room for those views on the right, while my conservative views are not accepted by the left.

                                                          How do we find that middle ground? The Independent thinkers who can take the best of both sides and meld them together into one.

                                                          • 6 votes
                                                          #22.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:48 AM EDT

                                                          Janine - you are wasting your breath. The left side of society are selfish, immature, childish and want society to take care of them. They do not want to think things thru, they want the government to think for them, and to support them, from birth to death. Just like there parents did, until they were kicked out of the basement.

                                                          • 2 votes
                                                          #22.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 11:01 AM EDT

                                                          romal - that there was an excellent example of what both Tyrone and Janine just said above you.

                                                          YOU are the problem.

                                                          • 1 vote
                                                          #22.4 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 1:45 PM EDT
                                                          Reply

                                                          I didn't know I was Chinese.

                                                          • 3 votes
                                                          Reply#23 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:13 AM EDT

                                                          I'm an American, but by no means an extension of the United States Federal government, in fact, this government is not in the least bit representative of the will of the American people.

                                                          When American Citizens voice their own desire to remove the oppressive and corrupt 'Washington Establishment', why should it surprise anyone that China, or for that matter any Foreign Nation, doesn't particularly care for it?

                                                          Foreigners once looked to America for a free and better life, not to an America created by politicians, but to the America created by the American people.

                                                          Take back you government...

                                                          • 11 votes
                                                          Reply#24 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:13 AM EDT

                                                          I agree, but logic is wasted on many of the party loyal people on this site. They will keep alternating between the two dysfunctional parties expecting a different outcome. It is obvious that it doesn't work, so why keep trying? Insanity.

                                                          • 4 votes
                                                          #24.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:42 AM EDT

                                                          Tyrone E.

                                                          I agree, but logic is wasted on many of the party loyal people on this site.

                                                          Especially the libiots.

                                                          • 3 votes
                                                          #24.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:12 AM EDT

                                                          @TonyinWyo:

                                                          "Especially the libiots" ??

                                                          Do you have any clue at all how stupid you just made yourself look?

                                                          • 1 vote
                                                          #24.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 11:26 AM EDT
                                                          Reply

                                                          Question: "What world country kills female infants"? Answer: "China".

                                                          • 12 votes
                                                          Reply#25 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:17 AM EDT

                                                          Question: what world country kills the most unborn female and male infants? The US

                                                          You can't condemn one without condemning all. One act is every bit as wrong as the other.

                                                          • 10 votes
                                                          #25.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:53 AM EDT

                                                          There are many ways to kill a child, abortion is not the only way. There is also poor health care.

                                                          For live births, the United States ranks 34th on infant mortality.

                                                          Singapore has the lowest infant mortality rate, followed closely by those pesky "socialized" European countries.

                                                          The worst infant mortality rate is Afghanistan.

                                                          Funny how the conservative can be against abortion, and against "socialized" prenatal healthcare that would benefit newborns.

                                                          • 8 votes
                                                          #25.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:32 AM EDT

                                                          Infant Mortality has so many factors - the US has more deaths due to the drug consumption of the so called Adult population, along with alcahol tobacco and are consumtion of artificial foods that the EPA endose and force down are throats.

                                                          • 2 votes
                                                          #25.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 11:10 AM EDT

                                                          Sharkey, why should health insurance be "socialized"? If you can't afford health insurance to cover the pre-natal care and birth of your child how will you ever be able to afford to Raise your child? People need to stop relying on the government to support their poor decisions.

                                                          It's all about responsibility.

                                                          • 3 votes
                                                          #25.4 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 11:26 AM EDT

                                                          CPO Sharkey--I provided health ins. for my family and myself. People that take on the responsibility for themselves do so at a heavy expense--most just can't afford to carry those less responsible--and why should we?

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                                                          #25.5 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 12:31 PM EDT

                                                          To both Janine and George.....

                                                          Just pointing out that those "pesky" European countries with "socialized" medicine have lower infant mortality rates.

                                                          It's nice that both of you can afford good insurance plans, some people don't have any insurance what-so-ever.

                                                          Just don't stand on your soapbox and talk about the evils of abortion without thinking about how those babies are going to be provided for.

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                                                          #25.6 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 12:58 PM EDT

                                                          You can get a job at WalMart --they offer surprisingly good medical and dental. once you work yourself into full time. About all you have to do for full time is just show up for work. I have an acquaintance that works there. If you can't afford ins. cut out the cell phones, big screens, cigarettes.

                                                          You can't compare Europe to us--unless we send all the illegals over there. Insurance and just about everything else for that matter--is about self responsibility--something a lot of people haven't lerned.

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                                                          #25.7 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 1:19 PM EDT

                                                          Don't worry about how the babys'll be provided for--it'll be the usual way I'm sure-- grand parents'll raise them.

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                                                          #25.8 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 1:33 PM EDT

                                                          Last I checked we had an unusually high unempolyment rate, so not everyone can get a job at Walmart.

                                                          In addition, most retail jobs are part time, the hours are kept under the full time qualifying amount, so that employers do NOT have to pay health insurance or retirement benefits. Matter of fact, many retail employees work two part time jobs to make ends meet. The same is true for doctor and dentist medical staff.

                                                          No, whatever your excuse for an arguement, it basically comes down to one statistic, as Janine pointed out in a limited manner, infant mortality.

                                                          The simple, irrefutable, fact is that the US ranks 34th on the list for infant mortality, which is inexcusable.

                                                          Now, go ahead and argue that those pesky "socialist" European countries don't have immigration issues, cell phones, big screens, and cigarettes, which is why they can afford better pre-natal care to reduce infant mortality.

                                                          You make it sound like there is an acceptable excuse for the United States to rank 34th in infant mortality?

                                                          EDIT: The usual way is for the grandparents to raise their grandchildren? Not sure what part of the country you live in, but you must be really bitter that your grandparents had to raise you in the "usual" way.

                                                          Where I live children are raised by their parents, even single household parents. In many cases those parents both work to raise their kids, and single parents oftentimes hold down two jobs to make ends meet.

                                                          Sorry your life is not the way most of us live. You must really hate your parents to be so bitter.

                                                            #25.9 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 1:35 PM EDT

                                                            Walmart is a lousy job ,BUT, they have a huge turnover. At a local Walmart, about 40 employees called in "sick" this last weekend. If you canfill out the application form, they llhire you. If you go to work every day you're told, and actually work once there, you can get on full time. So I'd differ with you on that point, there ARE jobs for those that really want them. There are not so many "positions". I'm obviously not working being I'm on here, I retired at 69. May work again this fall. Also, I won't get into it, but If I could get a job, keep it for 40+ years, anybody can. You got to make yourself valuable to the employers.

                                                            And no, I don't hate my parents, they raised us to work for a living and to be responsible for ourselves. I'm referring to today's parents

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                                                            #25.10 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 1:52 PM EDT

                                                            And also, I'm not going to have an abortion, so how is abortion any of my business?--I don't care! Just don't make me pay for someone else's irresponsibility.

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                                                            #25.11 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 2:16 PM EDT
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