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China's Public Security Bureau's graphic announcement about the crackdown on illegal immigrants in Beijing. The Chinese characters say: 'Illegal immigrants, illegal residence, illegal work' and the fist graphically spells out the crackdown.
BEIJING – China has launched a 100-day crackdown against illegal immigration and illegal employment in the wake of a high-profile sexual assault case involving a British national who was videotaped allegedly attempting to force himself on a Chinese woman.
The disturbing three-minute video surfaced on the Internet last week and has been viewed more than 8 million times on the Chinese video-sharing website youku.com, provoking outrage across China’s web-sphere.
The clip of the May 8 incident shows the 25-year-old British man standing over a sobbing Chinese woman on a street median before a Good Samaritan came to her rescue. Following a brief scuffle, the attacker was then shown lying unconscious on the street before he is suddenly kicked by another nearby bystander – much to the approval of netizens who commented online.
Police arrived soon afterward and detained the man, who was reportedly intoxicated, for sexual assault. He is allegedly still in detention, pending an investigation.
Officials from China’s Public Security Bureau told NBC News that their summer-long campaign against illegal immigration and illegal employment is simply an enforcement of procedures already in place and wouldn’t comment on whether this crackdown was the result of the attack.
The tactics the Public Security Bureau announced they would use are similar to the ones employed in 2007 and during the run-up to the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing. Namely, spot checks of foreigners in Beijing neighborhoods frequented by expatriates, like the Sanlitun bar district and the university district of Haidian.
Police will also create a special hotline so the public can report suspicious foreigners. Security officials will also conduct door-to-door checks of homes owned or rented by foreigners to check visas and housing permits. Chinese state television, CCTV, also quoted Professor Xiang Dang of the Chinese People's Public Security University as saying that the National People’s Congress Standing Committee was also considering creating special detention centers to hold foreigners found without valid visas.
‘Foreigner vs. Chinese’
All of this is part of a multi-prong campaign ostensibly to rein in immigrants who commit crimes, have over-stayed their visas or work illegally in the mainland.
Despite the claims that this was merely a step-up of routine procedures, the tone of the announcement of the campaign – posted on China’s Twitter-like service Weibo – suggests a renewed urgency on the part of Chinese police. In the announcement, a fist is seen smashing down on three words: Illegal immigrants, illegal residence, illegal work.
News of the campaign was unfortunately greeted with some anti-foreigner stereotyping – a common “foreigner versus Chinese” practice lamented in a column in the Chinese newspaper Global Times.
But the police crackdown was generally seen as a positive development online. On Weibo one user wrote: “[The campaign] should have happened earlier! If we don’t do this, there will be more cases of foreigners raping Chinese girls!”
Another user, however, noted, “In fact, we don’t need this campaign now. Any foreigner who has seen the video or heard about this incident will behave. That’s the best lesson.”
Throughout the day on Tuesday, “illegal foreigner” was a Top 10 trending topic on Weibo.
But missing from much of the public discussion online was the fact that the Briton believed to have sparked this new campaign was in China on a valid tourist visa.
Growing issue: illegal immigration
Though the timing of the Public Security Bureau’s campaign suggests a desire to associate the video with a toughening-up on street crime committed by foreigners, the focus of the campaign –checking documentation of foreigners – seems to be centered more on dealing with illegal immigration.
A Global Times article on the crackdown noted that China rounded-up about 20,000 illegal immigrants last year and – just like the United States – had no idea just how many were still in the country.
“It's very difficult for China to deal with the problem,” the Global Times wrote. “China lacks experience, hasn't made full preparations, and does not even know the exact number of illegal immigrants right now.”
The Global Times – typically a nationalistic leaning paper – appeared to be using the crackdown as an occasion to acknowledge the country’s need for immigration reform.
“China should create favorable and legal conditions for foreigners to live and work in the country,” the article states. “On the other hand, China should be decisive in cracking down on illegal immigrants. It cannot afford to be an immigrant destination at this early stage.”
If the tenet about citizens of poor countries chasing opportunity in richer nations holds true, the 20,000 illegal immigrants China dealt with this year will very soon pale in comparison to the number of illegal immigrants in the United States as of 2011: 11.5 million.
Correction: May 17, 2012
An earlier version of this post noted that a member of the National People's Congress Standing Committee told CCTV that it was considering creating special detention centers to hold foreigners without valid visas. It was Professor Xiang Dang of the Chinese People's Public Security University, not a member of the National People's Standing Committee who made that comment.
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ACLU and the Jessie and Al gang should demonstrate in T-Square about this racial profiling.
@Bobwhatever Umm dude, you do realize that this is CHINA, not the United States, right?
The ACLU, Jessie Jackson, and Al Sharpton are all AMERICAN activists. For crying out loud, do you even know what the "A" in ACLU stands for?! (American, not Chinese)
And yes, this sort of racial profiling is just as wrong there as it is here. But China doesn't have the same respect for free speech that we do here. Their activists are forced to protest from the shadows for fear of being arrested.
You should educate yourself and learn about the issues before commenting on them. Or was your intention to just randomly troll about the ACLU and your apparent hatred of African American civil rights leaders?
Go China! I can't wait til they buy the U.S!
WOW, a nation of 3 to 4 billion cracks down on a mere 20,000 illegal immagrints and here we are, only 300 million people with 11.5 million illegals according to the Government (really 30 million illegals is more likely) and our Federal Government $ucks Mexico's Penis.
I am tired of my TAX MONEY going to fund free education, food, healthcare and of course welfare for illegal Mexicans while they smuggle drugs into the country and rape/murder citizens.
WAKE UP PEOPLE, Illegal Mexican Violence is real and plentiful, do we want this here? It is coming with the Illegals. Hell, Obama has already brokered arm sales to the Cartels. Take about being in bed with them. I know they lost track of the weapons Obama sold them but, WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO THE MONEY FROM THE ARMS SALE, DID OBAMA KEEP IT FOR HIS Re-ELECTION CAMPAIGN?
IMAO!! A nations of 3/4 billion?! Do you know the total population of the world is 7 billon? China's population is 1.3 billion!
Lei Chen, how dare you publicly hand out this information to someone incapable of entering into a search bar the words "population of China". You will be held responsible for the heart attack or stroke this individual suffers as the result of his/her blatant ignorance and inability to research this issue being made public. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Yes, how can this be happening in China and not in the United States? Don't we care about our citizens or are the people that are here illegally more important? Someone tell the little girl in Hamilton, Ohio that illegals don't attack children/people here and when they do it may take as many as 6 years to bring the perpetrator to justice even though they know where he is. I applaud China for enforcing its laws rather than telling people laws are meant to be bent. Go Get'm Obama! I'm not endorsing Romney for President either; it seems both of them want to reward law breakers.
No Chensie, she was talking about how many Chinese molest foreigners who are unable or unwilling to report crime - largely out of fear of the police. Some of these sycophants need to see the street through the eyes of a blonde daughter working there - a place where they'll steal your bike and rape you in a cab.
Lei Chen / Sichuan... and 1.3 billion isn't correct either.
Actually, I admire the Chinese. We have lots to learn from them. This is one instance which we can learn from them!
Rather than criticize them for protecting their borders and their sovereignty, we should not only be taking notes, but adopting the same strategy!
Yes, Bill, 1.3 billion is correct.
Going back to the first post, um, racial profiling? Nothing in the article says anything about race. Just like in the United States illegal immigrant is not a race (FYI race baiters, Mexican isn't a race either).
I am a bit closer to this than others here as I live and work in China. Though, I am legal. I have not seen any effect of this "crackdown" nor directly seen or heard any backlash as a result of the assault on the Chinese woman.
Good for the Chinese. We should have a serious crackdown here. Good for them. They see a problem and they are addressing it...
I am not saying that we should go to the extremes that the Chinese do, but it would be nice to see a crackdown on illegals here in the US as well. I am tired of hearing that illegals who have not committed a crime will not be deported. They have committed at least one crime simply by being here and if they are working they have committed at least one more and probably several more. For an illegal to be working is against the law and most of them are doing with the aid of stolen SSNs, which is also breaking the law (it's called identity theft) and have falsified a government document, the I-9 form you fill out for the employer, which is yet another crime. There is a reason it is called illegal immigration, because it is a crime to enter this country without permission. Why should we have to wait until they commit yet another crime against one of our citizens before we throw them out of the country!!!
We need to make E-Verify mandatory for all US employers and start having the government seize any company found to be knowingly employing illegals as criminal enterprises. Maybe if the business owners are faced with having their business taken from them instead of getting hit with a fine that is less than what they are saving by employing the illegals to start with they will take this seriously. Take away the jobs and most of the illegals will go home on their own, we can save ourselves the cost of rounding them up. For proof of this just look at Alabama. They cracked down on companies employing illegals and the number of illegals in the state plummeted.
China will teach us again how it works but will we listen..Hell no we're the kumbaya country of the world.
I wonder what would happen if the mainstream media started highlighting the crimes committed by illegal immigrants in THIS country, including thousands of rapes and hundreds of killings?
Gee Kris - ever heard of sarcasm. I believe the rest of us got it (for the most part)
Can we export our Mexicans to China? They would have much better chance of being deported from there.
China having problems with illegal aliens?? WELCOME TO OUR WORLD!!
@Roy Wilson: We already do highlight those crimes. Pretending that doesn't happen is either a mark of naivete or ambitious intellectual dishonesty. From your post history, I'm guess its the latter.
@General audience: China is a very different place than the U.S. Their 'crackdown' will undoubtedly not come within a stones throw of american efforts but will have a much more extreme range of effects on the deportees. For instance, illegal North Korea immigrants will be sent home to almost certain death; NK has a long standing policy of viciously punishing people who try to leave.
Their largest illegal immigration "problem" comes from extremely poor citizens of autocratic regimes like NK and organized criminals. I don't know what the Embassy district looks like now, but several years ago many nigerian nationals, and a couple of austrailians, would patrol the streets hawking of Sanlitun, the tea district and the bar street. I had no less than 5 different nigerians approach me in one night in downtown Beijing trying to hawk everything from hash to heroin.
The locals mostly have no idea what any particular drug is or what it does, which serves as a convenient cover for the pushers trying to sell anything they can to foreigners. I saw some cops walk right past a guy smoking pot and they had no idea what it was the guy was smoking, most probably because they'd only smelled it a couple of times in their life. Like in the U.S. many of the illegals need to be sent packing and some of them, in a more perfect world, deserve a little sympathy. Life is more complicated than binary decisions between yes and no.
That being said, what this will most likely result in is a bunch of wealthy westerners on expired visas having to jump through a lot more of the ridiculous tangle of often contradictory PRC bureaucracy, a bunch of dead North Koreans and maybe some rural cops beating the holy pigeon @!$%# out of the first non-local ethnicity person who pisses them off. Should work wonders for tensions with India, Nepal and Mongolia.
Does this mean that the Chinese government will now be willing to discuss the return of illegal Chinese immigrants -- here in the US -- back to China? In the past they have been unwilling to consider this.
ercillor - we should not have to ask China for permission to deport their citizens who are here illegally. But we have to kiss their hams so they keep buying our securities so we can continue blowing borrowed money away on stupid wars.
RACISTS! RACISTS! ANYONE AGAINST ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS A RACIST! see how stupid this sounds, libtards? Because that is your stupid arguement
@Chris-65: Pretending the other side is stupid while leading with a straw-man argument is kind of ironic, don't you think?
You know who said "anyone against illegal immigration is a racist"? You did. You're the only person. You pretend that's the argument being made, but it clearly isn't being made by anyone here. Is lying something you do for fun or is it some kind of defense mechanism? As in, you feel threatened by different ideas so you act out.
Keep the "Round eyed Devils" out - this means you!
mgo - I'm curious. Are you aware that illegal and legal immigration is down markedly since Obama took office, and that more illegals have been deported during this time as well?
Also, do you have any proof of your remarkable assertion, that "Obama has already brokered arm sales to the Cartels"?
Or is proof necessary in your world, as opposed to allegations?
I see how stupid your argument reads.
The difference between China illegals and US illegals is that we need the cheap labor from Mexico to help increase profit margins for big corporations and the Chinese already have that cheap labor within their people and they don't need illegals of any kind. The US ONLY cares about big corporations making big profit, we DON'T care about who gets hurt along the way, just look at the wars we create for our military complex.
You cant stop illegal immigration or the crime that follows when we are a globalized world. Every human being in the world wants to be able to own their own piece of land and to be able to feed their families and just be able to live. China has the same problem as the US. In my community nearly 3/4 of it is illegal immigrants, this just leads to racial profiling... We need to figure out a way to handle this
You ARE kidding, right? We taught the chinese all this stuff!
Here's what the article says the Chinese are doing:
The tactics the Public Security Bureau announced they would use are similar to the ones employed in 2007 and during the run-up to the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing. Namely, spot checks of foreigners in Beijing neighborhoods frequented by expatriates, like the Sanlitun bar district and the university district of Haidian.
Police will also create a special hotline so the public can report suspicious foreigners. Security officials will also conduct door-to-door checks of homes owned or rented by foreigners to check visas and housing permits. Chinese state television, CCTV, also quoted Professor Xiang Dang of the Chinese People's Public Security University as saying that the National People’s Congress Standing Committee was also considering creating special detention centers to hold foreigners found without valid visas.
Now, let's look at what we're doing here in the US: spot checks of persons in the border states like AZ for police to ask anyone they stop for their papers. Homeland Security has set up a hot line for people to report on others. While we haven't been doing door-to-door checks yet, there are instances of ICE/Homeland Security raiding a house supposedly rented by illegals and arresting anyone they found there even when the 'illegal' showed papers proving they were here legally:
Last week, the L.A. Times reported that ICE wrongfully detained two legal immigrant women who were permitted to be in the country under the Violence Against Women Act (VAWA). According to the article, Maria de Barrera was arrested in her Los Angeles home after ICE showed up looking for people who no longer lived at the residence. Even though she showed ICE agents her worker’s permit, she was taken to an immigration detention center until her lawyer showed up with VAWA documentation.
Another legal immigrant permitted to live in the U.S., Elvira Ayon, was arrested in Delano, CA and carted off to an immigration detention center in Arizona where she stayed for one month. Again, she was released only after her lawyer arranged for her release.
And as far as creating special detention centers--we have deportation camps here. Homeland Security pays private, for-profit prisons to become deportation camps for immigration detinees scattered throughout the South and the border states for 'illegals'. Do a Google search on 'Willacy Family Processing Facility' in Raymondville TX, look at the ICE inspection report that ultimately led to the camp being shut down for human rights violations.
First off, see post above. We're already going to some of those extremes ourselves. And if you're tired of hearing that illegals who haven't committed a crime aren't being deported, then tell the news people to tell the truth.
My coworker's mother was deported in December of last year. She as brought to the States legally in 1945 as an infant orphan from Germany and legally adopted by an American couple. In early December, 60+ years after being adopted, USCIS calls her up, tells her that their personnel made a mistake in 1945 by not having her parents file for citizenship for her at the time of adoption (they were never told that citizenship was't automatic with adoption) and she was no longer a citizen. She was not allowed to file paperwork to correct the mistake, her now-90-year old parents tried to explain to ICE that they were never told and it wasn't her fault, but ICE confiscated her home, car, bank account and belongings as civil asset forfeiture and deported her 2 days before Christmas. She has to stay in Germany for ten years before her son (my coworker) can apply for her to come back. They hope she will be back in time for them to celebrate her eightieth birthday.
She's never been in trouble, never drew welfare, paid taxes on time and passed eVerify. ever committed a crime, not even being here illegally; she was legally adopted, has a legal SS card/number and yet she was deported to a country she can't remember and doesn't speak the language of, with no money.
So all that stuff that people say about not deporting 'illegals' who haven't committed a crime is bullpuckey because I know firsthand it's not rue.
If going to China to work for a few dollars a day draws illegal immigrants, how bad must the situation be where they are coming from ?
Every industrialized nation experiences this problem. As long as there are people who want a better life, they will do whatever they need to in order to make that happen. The people don't care about borders or countries, they just want to live.
Wish the US government would do the same.
exactly homesick yank
Amen Yank...China takes specific action when needed, as opposed to the pitiful, weak, and confused US leaders. I've traveled to China many times and marvel at the tremendous strides this wonderful country has made in a few short years, a rapidly growing middle class, tremendous infrastructure, A system that allows elderly a happy and comfortable life, and of course the emphasis on education and learning. Is it any wonder that China, now #2 in the world will soon surpass the USA? And, does anyone wonder why the hate filled muslims who eagerly attack other prosperous and civilized nations have never dared to attack China? Of course...even these backward cowards understand that retribution would be so severe and swift that any attack would be folly. China...keep up the good work!
Wow, a developed country that actually takes steps to protect its own citizens. Who in the West ever heard of such a concept? All we get are platitudes about tolerance and whimpering about "profiling" whenever foreigners commit crimes or terrorism over here.
Love the way MSNBC distinguishes between "crime" and "illegal immigration."
Illegal Immigration, Illegal Residence, Illegal Work are crimes.
Wow you clowns want the US to be just like China!!
I guess you want a communist government without civil rights then.... you have to be the most confused right wing nuts I've met yet.
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Not gonna happen here in the US. Our Politicians want their votes so they can stay in office squandering our taxpayer monies.
The U.S. does not want to piss off the Latino's, because if they do,they won't vote for Obama.
Carolyn, you neglected to mention the fact that Republican administrations have also done nothing to solve the problem. Your deliberate failure to criticize all those who have ignored this problem renders your post absolutely worthless and publicly exposes you as nothing more than a partisan. I, as a Democrat, can't count the times I've publicly criticized and condemned Democrats for their actions or lack of actions, corruption they've engaged in and/or illegal activities they've engaged in.
You should move to a communist country, a country ruled by a dictator or a Muslim governed country where the only acceptable view is that of the governing forces and all other views are either condemned or considered traitorous.
Well that's a positive and constructive response there buddy! So, what is your plan. It is one thing to criticize others or the GOP's various platforms but if you are going to point the finger please be so kind in offering your preferred option. I agree this has festered too long and is out of control and a massive drag on city, county, state, and federal tax spending to support those applying for and receiving services.
I would say people stopped by police need to show valid ID with current address as it has been each time I was stopped by police. I would say in order to get a state ID you must submit proof of citizenship and/or immigration papers, no papers no ID. I would say landlords, employers, and schools must review, file, and verify identity within 30 days of submission (this would cut down on people abducting kids and moving to hide from an ex-spouse, identify theft, etc.). I would also say there DOES need to be a national DB of residents; natural born, naturalized, working immigrants, students, visitors, etc. and if pooled from SSI, ICE, or student admissions I don't know but sure something off the shelf could be used. Finally the police should be required to verify citizenship of all detainees before letting them go. How often have we seen reports of illegal aliens DWI and disappearing, too often. See, right or wrong I have stated a platform that is open for debate and moves the conversation forward, not pointing a condescending finger and saying someone is wrong. Everyone needs to get back to a civil conversation on the issues, not shouting matches or put downs without offering where you are coming from. Unless of course you just want it all to dissolve into total discourse and toxic rhetorical reciting of party line talking points.
JohhnyBravo...
Arizona passed legislation requiring police to verify immigration status of anyone arrested or a crime suspect . Unfortunately, people of Arizona have favorable view of this law but the federal government and some activists do not agree so it is being reviewed in Supreme Court, ruling is expected sometime in June. It is claimed to lead to racial profiling.
Other states have also passed similiar legislation to rule out illegal immigrants.
You should also search for " Secure ID initiative " and " Real ID Act ". We are close to implementing a national ID card at statewide level based on these standards. Search what will be required to get a new driver's license or renew from your state.
There is a huge difference between "latinos" who enter this country illegally to abuse, misuse, steal and wrongfully appropriate services and those of hispanic descent who have taken the appropriate steps to become a part of our nation. We call the latter AMERICAN CITIZENS.
Well call them what you will, but if we dont enforce immigration laws then citizenship really has no value. The people who you elect to serve you, really only serve themselves. Yet you will rush to the polls to elect these same asshats who ignore you and your rights over and over again.If you are so hot on having immigration reform why not try voting for a little poliitical reform? Elect some people who actually intend to fulfill their oaths of office and the reforms will follow. But no Americans elect the same old bunch and expect different results tiime after time again. When the "canidate for change" announces that his vice prisedent will be one of the biggest political insiders in Washington, you stilll vote for him. Well you got exactally what you deserve. Oh yeah but he was black and now I lost all that slavery guilt, or wow now a brother is in charge....morons. Wanna bet its a woman next time? With a bunch of BS like "its about time". What does it take to make Americans realize that they are getting played for the fools they act and vote like? Stop blaming the people you allow to do thiis to you and start doing something about it yourselves.
You must think I am pretty powerful. Apparently I, all by myself, have put the countries government into place. You really think I am pleased with the current administration? You think I am satisfied with the federal response to illegal immigration? If you want to call someone a moron and a fool you could start with jerks that point the blame at everyone around them and insult people to puff up thier ego. Your last line pretty much sums up the irony of your uncalled for rant. You tell others to stop blaming while you yourself are doing the same thing, lol.
Can you imagine if United States Government went door to door to known foreigner's homes to do on the spot checks! Outrageous. They can't even ask someone here what their citizenship is or they are considered racists!
Not entirely true, but more to the point, you are suggesting the U.S. government should be more like the PRC gov't?
A law abiding chinese citizen can get beat to death by a cop just about anywhere in the country but, even if done in public in the middle of the day, if someone complains to anybody about it there is a rather serious chance the very same thing will happen to them.
But yeah, brutal authoritarian regimes are rather expeditious but don't count on them to dither much over nuances like guilty and not-guilty.
It's time China to crack down on 3 illegals: illegal entry, illegal stay (stay beyond visa expiry) and illegal working (particularly those on tourist visa). Last year there were 55 million foreigners entry and exit to China and the rate is increased at 10% per year. No doubt the majority of the foreigners are legally travelling or living in China, and to this Chinese people extend their warmest welcome. But there are many unscrupulous people coming to China, like like in USA, engaging crime and illegal activities disturbing the harmony of the society and to this China must resolutely stamp out.
Yeah that socitial harmony in Tianamen Square a few years back was something else. Must have had a lot of foreign devils driving all those tanks.
It would seem that china should have no trouble cracking down on illegals, after all, they have centuries of experience of conquering and dominating other countries, a prime example would be 'Tibet'. look how they just marched in and started murdering the native population and then moving their gestapo military in with tanks to keep the people subjugated.
The very same thing they are getting ready to do to Hong Kong.
Jim, you need to do a little research. Centuries of experience of conquering and dominating other countries? For the most part, China has suffered greatly due to the invasions of their land by many outside forces. The British invaded Tibet in 1904, killing thousands of innocent civilians, and in 1906 the British, in exchange for two million rupees, acknowledged China's right to annex Tibet. When China invaded Tibet in 1950 the citizens of Tibet had often been subjected to brutal oppression by their own government. I could go on and on and on but it would be much easier for you to simply research the issue.
Do I think Tibet belongs to China or that China had the right to annex it? No, I do not. Do I think Tibet should be independent of China? Yes, I do. Do I think China is completely wrong about the intentions of the Dalai Lama? Yes, I do. Do I think your post shows a total ignorance of the situation. Yes, I do.
When it comes to governments and militaries there are no winners or losers; only survivors. The strong always overcome the weak, at least for a period of time. Now, would you like to engage in a discussion of our own government's support for and clandestine activities in the various coups and assassinations of democratically elected leaders of foreign nations?
Why don't you go back to kindergarten to learn some real history instead of spewing garbage here. Tibet had been a part of China since the 14th century. The 1957 uprising was funded and armed by the CIA. Disgusting how you americans continue to fund and stir troubles around the world and then stand in front of the world to say how righteous you are.
Also, have a ever been to Hong Kong? Obviously not. Otherwise you won's be telling these LIES here.
Thanks New...obviously Jim failed 3rd grade history and all the history lessons that followed. Or maybe 3rd was as far as he went. You are totally correct about Tibet, and Hong Kong was always a part of China until taken over by the UK, then given back to China 11 years ago. And historically China has never been a conqueror nation, only a peaceful closed agrarian society until they opened up in 1977. China has never invaded, nor attempted to conquer any country.
Disgusting how 'YOU AMERICANS' place Our rumps on the line every time they are called. Yes, there are times when noses should have stayed out. How about all of the disaster aid that flows freely from OUR pockets and is soaked up around the world. Taken quite willingly and appreciated - wait - that's right - as a general rule only the first applies.
When they say 'British national', doesn't that usually mean someone of another descent living in Britain? If so I wonder what he really is. Good for China. Only thing is if they are going to have people coming in to teach English, work for a while in their new corporations, etc, they will have foreigners.
20,000 Illegal immigrants in China? Damn Mexicans are everywhere!
Last year there were 55 million foreigners entered and exited China. The foreigners are coming to China with an annual increase rate of 10%. In each city of Guangzhou, Shanghai and Beijing there are over 200,000 foreigners live and work there. Many foreigners are illegal immigrants and the 20,000 reported were rounded up were not the total illegal immgrants but merely a fraction of the total. The pulblic security in China acknowledges the difficulty of winding up the illegals as some of them were harboured by their fellow countriymen who are legally staying in China.
JPinMN.... not all spanish speaking people you encounter everyday are mexicans.
What a completely ignorant thing to say. Illegal immigrants are not completely defined as only Mexican or Hispanic decent. We have 11.2 million illegal immigrants in the U.S according to reports. 7 million are Hispanic. SO what makes up the other 40%? That would be just about every nationality that has either entered illegally or over stayed their visa.
Simply categorizing one particular creed when dealing with illegal immigration is showing your form of racism. Illegal Immigration is a problem for all countries and I wish there was a fix all but there is not one.
FYI the U.S deports in the range if 200,000 illegals a year. So China rounding up 20,000 is chump change compared to what we attempt. This year will be even higher in deportation due to the new law in many states about search and check status profiling. Such as here is GA where I live. Police here now have the right to search any vehicle or group without provocation due upon their complexion. (i truly think that is wrong and hope it gets overturned in the Supreme Court as racial profiling)
I would suggest that sarcasm be used minimally or be noted as such. (B.T.W. that is sarcasm)
JP was making a joke, and it was funny. Get off your political high horses.
China, needs to watch its borders or else it will up like the U..S.A........25 million illegals and their kids that we have to feed, house, and educate.
Foreigners raping Chinese girls? Outrageous! Evict the foreigners. Chinese boys for Chinese girls!
The ignorance on this entire site, and post in particular is profound. As a foreigner living in China, for 6 years now, legally staying and working here I know a thing or two about this. Now, illegal immigrant in China is different from what it means in the US. Chinese have hukou, your home province and place of registration. If you move to another province you HAVE to register and have legal permission and immigration status papers to legally work there. For instance, someone born in Guangdong province can't just go to Beijing on a train or plane and get a job, they have to register upon entering Beijing and request a work permit. Illegal immigration is MORE internal Chinese moving from poor areas to the top tier cities AND it is a problem. For example, here in Shanghai the official tally of people living here is around 20 million, with just 40,000 foreigners here BUT there are close to 10 million "illegal" Chinese working here either in shady construction sites, factories, massage parlors, restaurants, domestic workers, recycling centers, street beggars, etc. If you get caught hiring one you get a huge fine and can lose your business license and if foreign your business visa. People from other countries are not pouring into China like they are into the US through Mexico, the only place that might happen here is from North Korea and the Chinese will stop and return those people as soon as they can (where they will be tortured or killed upon return).
The number of illegal foreign immigrants/workers is really small, mostly English teachers and college students who can't keep up with the pace of 90 day single entry visas expiring and renewal process of going out of country to re-apply for entry (this IS the real problem for foreigners in China, no way to resolve this in country but only through border countries...) Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Suzhou, and other top tier cities have tens of millions of former farmers pouring in trying to make more money for their families (they are lucky to make 1,000 USD annually at home and can almost triple that in the cities). The largest violates of the laws are the fly by night factories who hire them for cheap labor and house them in near prison like dorms next to the factory.
The Chinese government is doing this to stoke nationalistic pride, like the 3 Chinese trolls above, and keep the masses appeased and distracted into feeling the CPC has their best interests in heart. The CPC is all about control, and with 1.3+ billion that is a lot of control by a very small group, remember North Korea's military is LARGER then China's! The CPC is responding to the viral nature of this and using it as a tool to go in and investigate people's lives in their homes more aggressively. As stated above, the offending brit was on a legal visa at the time. He was wrong and needs to be punished as per Chinese laws, he is here and broke their laws and should pay accordingly. The crackdown, in my opinion, is more to do with population control in China's most populous country and capital AND to root out dissidents and silence them (remember the Bo fiasco over the coupe rumors?). Nothing done in China by the CPC is so thinly veiled, it is always multi-layered and has numerous intended consequences.
Lastly on the Chinese boys for Chinese girls angle. Sorry Charlie, the women here have all the power now. With so few girls to boys they will decide who, how, when, and where they do anything as they are the most limited resource. Guys will now have to produce 2 houses, 3 cars, and 2 bank accounts before a proposal is accepted. The girls here will be able to command and get anything and everything their whims take them. If that means having a foreign boyfriend because its the latest summer fashion or to brag and dish to their girlfriends with so be it. In a global market place they will have more options then to society full of spoiled little emperors who are used to getting their own way all the time by dolling parents and grandparents. This is where the real friction in China is going to happen, all the men competing and hording resources to win the favor of equally spoiled girls who are soon realizing their worth and ability to tell men what to do. Chinese girls will soon belong to themselves, if they choose a Chinese boy so be it as it will be her choice, but if not there isn't a darned thing you can do about it short of 10% of all males in China die off somehow to equalize the sex ratio. Even fat ugly rude girls will command multiple men willing to give her their family fortune for marriage. Welcome to the modern world...
Funny- Chinese man saves a Chinese girl from foreigner. Could have been Foreigner saves Chinese girl from Chinese man with birds watching.
When I was visiting Beijing with 4 U.S. friends, we were video taping while walking around and saw a crowd ~15 people. I looked into the crowd and there was a large 6 foot guy beating up the female bicycle parking attendant. He punched her in the side of the head, she fell down, he helped her up and karate kicked her in the stomach and she crumbled to the ground. I jumped through the crowd and confronted the guy and he stormed off. Those 15 Chinese guys (including the bank guard from the bank in front) just watched. I should put that video tape on the Chinese website to provide more fuel for their nationalism.
You must from the province of Antwerp of Belgian. I think I saw what you descriped on news. Wow! And you were acutally the one.
Meanwhile, as we continue to allow illegals to remain here, and millions more to pour into the country every year, we wonder why China is so economically successful...
There are some things about China I like.
Will the Chinese government please tell the American government how to deal with illegals ??
We have apprx. 20 million illegal mexicans now.
I have lived in China for two years now (on a legal and updated work visa) and have seen this disturbing video. This man needs to spend a long time in jail. For those of you that have never traveled outside of the united states and believe all the propaganda that the american media spews, the Chinese government is very good at protecting its people and in sheltering them from the outside, and most times, evil influences. Westernization of this country would be a huge mistake and would take away the incredible and amazing culture that exists here. I am very happy the Chinese government is doing this. And for those of you who think this is racial profiling, travel, see the world! The Chinese hold us in very high regard and love to have pictures taken with us and treat us very well. Unfortunately this man will probably have nothing happen to him except deportation because of their feelings about foreigners.
Oh my god a drunk Brit being an ass, what a surprise. and for you america, land of the free, son, I have been traveling for the last 40 years now, there are three stages of living in another country, 1. love it, want to be there forever, 2. Hate it, 3. Balance, son don't worry you will get past 1 pretty soon, I love that "the Chinese government is very good at protecting its people and in sheltering them from the outside, and most times, evil influences" are you really that stupid or just never read a book in your life. Right now I am sitting here in Spain working with my chinese friend whose parents were both put in prison during the cultural revolution, but now I understand that he, at 12, was just being protected. You are just another pompous ass boy
The Brits need to realise that their day is over, long over. We have a Brit "whale" loosing billions of our money and now another causing trouble in China. I never understood the American right and its love affair with the Communist Chinese? And all should be careful of criticizing the people you will work for someday?
in all due seriousness, i hope this wanker gets whats coming to him.
but the chinese need to stop stereotyping, its so old and predictable from them. they really think they are more clever than the U.S.A. when really all the great minds are here.
i dont know what they think this maelstrom will stir up when their problem pales in comparison to ours just as their lack of human kindness pales compared to our's.
in some sick (im a master strategist like mao tse tsung) way they might be preparing for a time to galvanize all hate toward the round eye white devil after the U.S.A. finally stops letting them eat our lunch.
And then what? a spoiled sulking bully like kim's son, ready to collapse, but not before they make the world deal with their insane "logic". yeah, its a regular paradise of cheapskate junky manufacturing and cut-throat atheism. you couldn't pay me to live there.
Except for being bai ren or hei ren, we all look the same to them.
Since our Economy crashed, More Mexicans are leaving than entering.
More leaving than comming ? Are you serious ? Prove that with a link to your stats, if you can. More here than in mexico is more like it.
End the fed before they end us.
Ed is correct. Why people can't use google to look it up themselves is beyond me:
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Thanks for the link, I read and don't save every link to memory, but I do live and work in Las Vegas. So Lou my life here and awareness of what goes on around me should be enough. Also, with all the killings going on in Mexico they could flee back to the USA.
go china!
Yet another reason why I will never visit China.
Why is that?
a) You are afraid you will get raped by drunken Brit
b) Are a drunken Brit and you are afraid you will get attacked by Chinese men after attempting to rape a Chinese woman on the street
c) You want to enter China illegally and are afraid they will catch you and throw you out
d) All of the above
i watched the vedeo this guy is drunk the guy was humping her leg its looks like the girl could of got away i wonder if they just set the guy up so he could get his @ss kicked and robbed is the guy still alive
The real head line should read, China begins it's take over of foreign business. Hugo Chavez calls it Nationalizing
China is starting to sound suspiciously like Germany in the 1930's.
Well I pity any Canadians that get caught up in the net over there - our "foreign affairs' ministry is a joke. We kowtow to China because they let our politicians go on "trade missions" whereby they are made to feel important but really end up kissing, the Chinese butt all because they buy our raw resources and sell them back to us as plastics, furniture, steel etcetera. And, actually, we are not allowed to pick on the illegal Chinese over here as our immigration ministry is another impotent patronage trough.