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Subscribe to RSSWe wrote a couple of days ago that there hasn’t been much popular fascination in China with the U.S. diplomatic cables published by WikiLeaks.
But there does appear to be gathering interest in forthcoming documents.
As some folks have noted, the WikiLeaks site showed there are China-related cables dated June 3, 1989, and June 5, 1989. These could shed new light on the Tiananmen Square protests that were violently crushed by the People’s Liberation Army 21 years ago – revelations that Beijing’s leadership will not welcome over an incident that’s still not up for public discussion.
It’s also believed that in the coming days another release of cables will include “secret memos exchanged between Taiwanese and U.S. diplomatic officials, perhaps giving the public a firsthand look at the fragile relationship,” reported the Taipei Times.
Tiananmen Square and Taiwan comprise two of the three highly-sensitive T’s in China; Tibet is the third.
So Beijing’s damage control, which we referenced a couple of days ago, comes as no big surprise.
At another regularly scheduled press briefing today, a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson again refused to comment on the leaked cables, only referring to the contents as “absurd” and “ridiculous.”
An editorial published Wednesday in the state-run Global Times newspaper went even further, suggesting the WikiLeaks cables are all part of a ploy to destabilize China: “Is there some understanding between the Web site and the U.S. government? It may be worth asking. And what does it mean to other countries that are on the radar screen of WikiLeaks?”
In a sharp piece, ChinaGeeks’ C. Custer argues that the Global Times editorial might be part of a preemptive strike for those cables still to come – which might be more directly damaging to Beijing:
“[B]y tying Wikilinks [sic] into their ongoing narrative about Western imperialism, U.S. aggression, and anti-China forces, they’re assuring whatever they can’t scrub – and whatever leaks through in the future – is discredited.”
But there’s a strong possibility this line might be more than just government spin.
Analysts here in recent months have been talking about the ascendancy of the Chinese military point of view within the leadership – one that is rooted in old-school suspicions about the U.S. and its “encirclement policy” vis-à-vis a rising China.
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When it comes to paranoia, an old paranoia is usually the best kind of paranoia...It usually has its basis in fact.
Better be paranoid of China. They aim to destory the U.S. economically. And by the looks of things they want to draw us into another war with North Korea. Although that will be easily won and a nuke near China can only be a good thing.
China wants to dump a large amount of its population. Do you really want to spend trillions of dollars we don't have trying to defeat a people that will continue to be sent over the hill like Vietnam?
We need to meet them head on with technology and that is through creating a Cyber Command force and knocking out their systems.
Cyber force ... maniac
Speaking of China trying to ruin us economically,I just went into a National Retail Chain Store and looked at almost every item there.Guess what-everything that I looked at was "Made In China".I could not find even 1 item that was made in the USA.I would boycott all things made in China,but to do so would mean no items available.So what do we as consumers do?????Where are the items made in the US sold?Or are there not any except Military and related manufacturing.
I would normally be hopeful that our current administration would take action based on current events. It sure does not look to be the case though. China supplies 95% of the worlds precious metals. We can't even build a computer guided bomb without buying material from China. All these metals are here in the USA, but due to government permitting costs, EPA regulations, and OSHA mine safety it is cheaper to buy from China and be led around like a dog trying to get a treat.
We can not put a Fighter jet in the air without buying oil from Saudi Arabia. We can't even make the new carbon fiber gun stocks our soldiers rifles have due to them requiring oil in the manufacturing process. Then our president says we are stopping any new drilling for oil on our Eastern Sea board. Wait we are not allowed to drill on our western sea board either. So when can we stop our dependence on foreign oil? We can't since it is used in everything plastic, including the polyester cloths on your back.
The US has already been sold out by politicians and they just keep digging the hole deeper so that our kids can be indentured servents.
Actually we are saving all of our resources and using up the rest of the worlds. Pretty genius. When they all run out, our will be priceless.
Are you talking about rare earth metals? There are 5 or 6 of increasing importance, of which 3 could maybe be mined in the United States. Other sources are in Russia, Brazil and India. By accidents of geology such as tectonic activity most of the available rare earth metals are most easily available in China. EPA regulations have little to do with this fact of geology, although I'm sure you're certain in your paranoia.
To solve these problems we only have to legalize industrial hemp! Wake up America! Or is it to late!
Our kids are already indentured thanks to the boomers and the "greatest generation". Grandma and grandpa sold out years ago to keep their stuff and have cheap goods.
It's too late.
Thats what I fear....even more than an airport body scanner.....LOL!
Tetrapoda,
Only one of them is 80% exclusive to China. Chevron, as molycorp has actually been trying to re-open a REM mine in the mojave desert. I wonder what could be stoping them? Read here for the rest of the story!
http://seekingalpha.com/article/103972-rare-earth-metals-not-so-rare-but-valuable
OK. We have rare earth (not precious metal stated in your post) here that we can mine ? What do you suggest we do about oil ? Do you mind taking the bus instead of driving, even if it is quite inconvenient, to save some oil for our fighters ? Is convenience more important to you than to ensure US can reduce the amount of oil imports ?
Poiuy,
For starters, "Drill baby drill." Drill in the Gulf, the East Coast, the West coast, and Alaska.
For seconds, if we went into a major conflict like that I would be re-enlisting, so I could protect the American dream for my daughter along with her freedom to choose to drive or ride the bus. As you can see driving someplace or taking the bus would be the least of "my" concerns along with any other patriot if we went to war with another Super Power, at least until the war was over.
Amen
Agree 100%
Finally the Truth!!!
Who's afraid of the truth????
There aren't any secrets!!!
Even with government entities.
And from the darkness comes the LIGHT!!!
Leave the Wiki dude alone!!!
To me information should belong to everyone. Whose to say that those who want to keep the secrets aren't our enemy too. To me george bush and Cheney were our enemy. Their plot to make a central location for all law enforcement agencies to share information was only a plot for them to continue to be able to get information on what our government and other governments are up too at all times. With over 500,000 or so employees having access to these records it allowed for them to have people on the inside to continue to distribute info to them. What are government is calling top secret info???
I also think that during the Bush era we screwed up our foriegn policy far worse than what Wiki Dude ever could do. So, we just have to live with our bad decisions that we've made during the Bush era. Hell, didn't Bush break the law by torturing people? Now he has made torture taboo again!!! Since Bush and America broke the law but was not held responsible in any way. Other countries and individuals can do the same thing so, that is a terrible precedent to set as the worlds' leading country. Yes, the truth is hard and can be difficult at times but most of us were raised on the basis that telling the truth and transparency is the right way to live your life.
Governments are not excluded!!!
Sorry Peel....but you say we screwed up....lol....it wasn't me! I'm an American but Ive never been involved in screwing up the world.... maybe my little corner....but not globally....it should be them and they....not we and us!
Fair play around the world is the only way today. It is impossible to hide anything today with High Tech Com. Military power could take over a country for a day, but it can not keep the country and its people. Just look through Chinese History 5000, see what happened to all the invaders, 500 years is very short. Not mention that we all live on the same earth, using the money we do not have to fight, cause more destructions?? Much better just sit down talking, try to fit each others shoes for a change, find ways benefit all sides from long runs.
I wonder why China fought Japan in 1937 instead of talking nicely to them.
Paranoia? How much truth is there in this paranoia? The article mentions Tiananmen Square which the Chinese government has conveniently swept under the carpet. How can we support such a country that oppresses its people in such a way?
But that's exactly what we've done. We've funded the competition. China will become the world's next superpower and many will argue it already is one. It is a nuclear nation with more than 1.3 billion people (almost twice that of the US). It is a manufacturing powerhouse that exports much of its products to the US because of unequal pay and unequal environmental protections. How much cadmium, lead, and melamine do we need to be fed before we understand, "you get what you pay for".
If that wasn't bad enough, China has manipulated it's currency to keep exports artificially low.
China is a nuclear power. China is a communist country. China has historically supported North Korea and that hasn't changed, even with recent tensions rising.
The Chinese have worked to steal our nuclear secrets (under Clinton), they have systematically been infiltrating our nations networks (including military and power grid), and supply our own weapons systems to which there have been questions about backdoors in the chips they make - don't take my word for it, do the research.
China doesn't respect intellectual rights. Send a good product to China to be manufactured, and a month later you will find a Chinese knockoff at a fraction of the price. This is why smart companies farm out the manufacturing across different companies and assemble them later.
All these wikileaks do is reveal the obvious to those who have been paying attention. China is not just a competitor.
The only reason the US is so cozy with China is because they are covering so much of our debt. This was done because the US dollar has historically been a good currency to hedge against. However, now we are in a situation where the dollar's value is questionable, have enormous debt, and China is in a position where they can hurt our economy if they cash out.
It amazes me how oblivious most people are to these events. This did not happen overnight. This took years to happen and no one president is to blame... several are. But we the people let it happen too - by being complacent and allowing our own government to get itself into this position.
One must ask is it ethical to conduct free trade with countries that do not operate on a level playing field? Is it right to allow other countries to cover our debt, esp. if they are competing countries? As a reasonable person, I say no way.
Paranoia is not the word. I am not one to make things up. I have been watching China for a very long time. The situation with North Korea is tenuous because China is their supporter. If that wasn't the case, the N. Korean regime would have likely fallen long ago.
Ask your congressmen to bring our manufacturing sector back to America before it's too late. Ask them to level the playing field before we tout free trade and send US dollars and jobs to other countries.
Your conclusions are correct...Your population math is not: China ~1340 million:USA~310 million or ~4.32X as large. Not to drag you down, in fact, it makes them even more scary.
Good reply! I still say we could become like we once were just by legalizing Industrial hemp....making that the main US export....put people back to work! Lots of jobs to be had....lots of money to be made....a new future....and all GREEN...which seems to be something good Americans love anyway....its not to late yet....but it may soon be!
Good reply! I still say we could become like we once were just by legalizing Industrial hemp....making that the main US export....put people back to work! Lots of jobs to be had....lots of money to be made....a new future....and all GREEN...which seems to be something good Americans love anyway....its not to late yet....but it may soon be!
You are correct. I had the US number wrong. More scary indeed.
gaaaaaa I wish you weren't wrong, the new number seem much worse, being outnumbered over 1 to 4 is scary
Congressmen are powerless in bringing the manufacturing back. The consumers alone have that power. Stop buying junk. Buy quality. And let the business world know how we want our goods.
When we buy mostly Hondas, Toyotas, Nissans, etc., the US automakers went down the drain. When we by Sony, Panasonic, we lost RCA. When we buy Nikon, we lost Kodak. It is just the same story all over again.
Yawn. life goes on for the average man. come try to take our money china. i dare you
It's not our money. It's China's.
Nixon made certain of that decades ago in retaliation.
The only thing that is keeping America some what, in the "game" is our Nuclear capacity. The rest of the World knows however, America will never use it.
Outside of that issue we are so far behind the other players it's laughable.
America has been Paranoid since WW2 ended. We have 350 million people at best count. China is closing in on 1.5 BILLION. Do the math. Being PARANOID is senseless at this juncture.
Growing some testicles and strategies to combat what we will face in the future is PARAMOUNT!
The mineral finds the Chinese paid for in Afghanistan are PRICELESS! That really puts them ahead of the game, if and when they choose to assume the POSITION!
With all the transparency we now have does that mean they will all now have to stop lying to us? LOL! Wouldn't that be interesting.... every time some one says something it will be posted! LOL....a lot of scared rabbits today! I guess Obama was right when he promised a more transparent government....only with this wikileaks dude....all governments are gonna be transparent!...LOL...Mad scientist plot to take over the world foiled! LOL....
Looks like China's about to get a little cold air blown up its skirt too
Happyblogger, How priceless are things that are obsolete??? We use up everyones oil and when they run out, everyone will be using nuclear power. How priceless will be our obsolete oil then. Same mentality for college education. Priceless...get everyone educated at a high price, then replace them all with computers and robots. How priceless is that??
East Asian countries tend to put a far higher emphasis on education than America. Americans tend to not be well educated.
Paranoia is just that.....irrational fear of China with its yellow hordes. A country with a continuous history of approximately 5000 years is not in the business of trying to conquer the world or engage in hegemony issues. The country knows the dangers of war, disease and famine. It's economy is not based on the military-industrial complex and propaganda; its based on food production, consumer goods, reconstruction, manufacturing, trade, mining, medical science and taking care of its people who follow the party line. A political strategy often used is to develop weaponry and a defense system where by no country will initiate aggressive action in view of retaliation and national oblivion. Therefore, it appears deterrence collaboration and neutralizing any threat is the name of the game.
There is the strong possibility that Chinese spies and hackers already made China aware of some or all of the intelligence in the WikiLeaks.
Were the Chinese equivalent of WikiLeaks available to the U.S., I would not be surprised if eerily similar "dirty laundry" from China was not involved. Perhaps U.S. intelligence forces already have in hand such material. Maybe a subsequent WikiLeak will divulge that. Perhaps the kid down the block has such information from hacking and will lend it to us free of charge.
In this age of high tech communication insecurity, the U.S. should take this opportunity to make an effort to clean-up its internal correspondence. We never know who is listening and it may even make our communications more constructive. But, "Dumbing down" the content is NOT an option, unless misdirection can be effectively employed, so the "enemy" can't tell which communications are fake, whereas we can.
Yes, this message is too obviously one of those fakes.
(c) 2010
China's generals need to get over their conspiracy theories... new or old. Their media is suggesting that US intelligence agencies (or factions or some kind of cabal) have given tacit sanction to WikiLeaks, not only to hurt China, but mainly to mess with the Obama administration (or something like that.. my Chinese is learned and not quite good enough for much confidence that I'm reading correctly). In any case, it sounds like somebody over there is a bit loony... or least as loony as our teabaggers are on a good day.
it was the Chinese taxation trade without proper resource representation. evil human trade addictions taught to get you to act like them for death. stick a finger,waste a pie thrown, and tell mother nobody proved it who did it after. religious demons contagious to human brains. existence conflicts related this pile of communication deceit language fuel is good as extinct with its invention worthless for human survival on earth. the great example of taxation without proper resource representation, the liar fires of addictive death abuse for government conflict existence as entertainment. all preachers test the facts when answers where refused with ignorance taught by evil. stupid monkey leaders, shut up. slavery record forgot history of government war inventions to push unlimited taxation of earth with human communication confusion china is stupid enough to read wiki leak inventions from USSR propaganda trade. it was a white hot a hand out, from sinning songs
i spray milk from my nose for that sick trick to murder humans with required resource conflicts from business trade commands
just who started selling advertisements with a click? lovely amazon.com corporations!
the religious human sinner trade made you all look at their bomb fire practice!
With respect, was your post generated randomly by a computer? I mean, it seems to follow a few general lexical rules, but I honestly couldn't follow it, either semantically or pragmatically speaking.
of course, religion has many program faces to ease your brain with deceit for death after you give it all up for government taxation forced as unnecessary human resource expense. (for bored preaching sinners sitting on paws)
yes, a computer knows its going to be used once again after destruction with replacement in the warehouse basement. time waste contagious to humans as evil survival distractions
did you ever figure if humans are alienating each other for government system currency?
even the computer hacker pushed a typo on my note with whipping cream for threat attention
china is the puppet of USSR, in shredded sheep clothing examples falling apart exposing truth under stalking deceit murder.
wiki leaks showed a hole proving contagious communication propaganda upon human populations of earth exist from religious Russian government, gay for human death.
did ask them to squak nonsense as leaders of human? the fire bomb was over statement addictions taught to the human race for earth resource taxation trade.
even the drug doctors help the evil artist singers to mock voices of others for trade.
Hello All Chinese People! and the World Citizens
Since the beginning of Chinese Communist Party ruled this China nation until today, all Chinese from that day until today are all born-to-be-slaves for Chinese Communist party and their murderous Chinese Communist party members! These killers are very blood-thirsty to the level several millions Chinese innocents have been systematically murdered in several decades since Mao started to use killing approach to slaughter his own citizens without question asked!
Days after days Chinese people have become immuned to their slavery life and there will be nothing the world can say! due to they accept this way of life! Communist Chinese Prty members are also the holocausts done to other innocents in Cambodia with few millions of murdered innocents here were lost their lives! and few millions of Africans in Darfur were murdered with the masterminded contributions of Communist Chinese! And In Vietnam several thousands were killed by Communist Chinese as well, islands in Paracel and Spratly islands were stolen by these barbarous Chinese communists as well documented by all world nations , plus Tibet nation has been invaded and occupied by Communist China and Indian lands have been invaded and occupied by this criminal state China as well! Plus Uighuristan nation this land is the same fate with Tibet! and Taiwan, Japan, Laos, Burma, have been infested by Communist China's criminal activities relentlessly! and now, African continent and Central Asian nations are in danger of Communist China, Mongolia has been stolen 1/2 of its territory by China, and only a nuclrear war done to this criminal state that can take back all stolen lands and nations from this lawless China nation! And more kinds of crimes hav reached all world nations in harmful Made In China products to faked value of yuan to systematically devastate the entire world and people! The crimes done by China can be extimated in several billions of crimes as expected! that all mankind have to deal with today!
Thank you all!
Good Day To All!
In essence, Communist China which has relentlessly and systematically contributed most or countless crimes to the entire world nations and people! This fact is as precise as:
1+1=2.
Period!
Thks 2 All.
Please get an education, thanks.
The majority of people in China is only care about living cost, housing , education and monthly salary. Who care politics?
If you believe that this is you country then fix it and if you can not then it is not yours!The wiki bible the light and the truth! Don't burn our bible!